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I had a small chip in a drum and was told it wasn=E2=80=99t an issue. I =
guess it depends on the size. If this was a car you intended to race, =
you=E2=80=99d probably be getting rid of the Lockheed axle anyway. The =
Lockheed rear ends may be good for authenticity, but there was a reason =
the later cars used Girling.
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I put new seals on my (Lockheed) axle and they do not leak.
=20
Second what Bill B. said about removing the drum.
=20
No idea about re-using the shoes =E2=80=93 sorry !
=20
Andrew Uprichard
Jackson, Michigan
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From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of David Gunn
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2021 3:43 PM
To: triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: [TR] I'm Back!! TR2 Rear Oil Seal and Brake Drum Removal Issues
=20
Hi - After about a 10 year hiatus due to health issues, I'm back on the =
list. It is good to see that this list is still going strong, and was =
in awe that the Dot 3 v. Dot 5 controversy still exists. =
<https://s.yimg.com/nq/yemoji_assets/latest/yemoji_assets/1f600.png>=20
=20
I have a 1954 TR2 longdoor, TS3388L. I rebuilt every system (brakes, =
electrical, fuel, cooling) 10-15 years ago. I did not have to open up =
the engine, transmission or rear end, as they seemed to be working just =
fine. It is close to original; although it does have a TR3 engine and =
disc brakes on the front (I didn't do it). Everything from the =
transmission back is original.
=20
When I parked it, I, unfortunately, did nothing. So, I know that I will =
need to redo and rebuild all of the various systems. I am hoping that I =
do not have to remove the gas tank again, as I parked it with a full =
tank of gas. At some point, I put Marvel Mystery Oil in the cylinders.
=20
I drove it many miles all over northern California. My last drive was =
up to Lassen Park. It ran fine; although it developed a leak in one of =
the rear wheel seals. I replaced both seals, and then both leaked (par =
normal for me). At that point, it was parked.
=20
Now, I am back to it. I am starting with the seals. Someone suggested =
that driving it with the original (?) seals caused a scaring on the axle =
and that I needed to put a sleeve on the axle to ensure a good seal. =
Does that make any sense? Is this something that I can do, or do I need =
to take the axles in to a machine shop?
=20
The right rear brake drum came off with minimal effort. I have not been =
able to get the left brake drum off. It has the original 9" drums. I =
have lightly tapped all the way around, to no avail. (BTW, I did remove =
the 2 set screws, and was able to back off the shoes, so it spins =
relatively freely.) I did knock a chip off the drum. I hope that =
doesn't affect the balance of that wheel? I have liberally sprayed =
penetrating oil in every crevice I could find. I have not been back out =
to the shop since applying the penetrating oil, due to the poor AQI and =
heavy smoke from the wildfires in northern California. =20
=20
One more question: I have 2 sets of near new brake shoes, but they were =
soaked with oil. Somewhere I heard that burying them in a tub of kitty =
litter would draw out the oil. Is this correct? An old wives tale?
=20
So, any advice from the combined wisdom of this group is greatly =
appreciated.
=20
Thank you,
=20
David
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class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'>I had a =
small chip in a drum and was told it wasn=E2=80=99t an issue.=C2=A0 I =
guess it depends on the size.=C2=A0 If this was a car you intended to =
race, you=E2=80=99d probably be getting rid of the Lockheed axle =
anyway.=C2=A0 The Lockheed rear ends may be good for authenticity, but =
there was a reason the later cars used Girling.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'>I put new seals on my (Lockheed) axle and =
they do not leak.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'>Second what Bill B. said about removing the =
drum.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'>No idea about re-using the shoes =E2=80=93 =
sorry !<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'>Andrew Uprichard<br>Jackson, =
Michigan<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Triumphs =
<triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> <b>On Behalf Of </b>David =
Gunn<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 30, 2021 3:43 PM<br><b>To:</b> =
triumphs@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> [TR] I'm Back!! TR2 Rear Oil =
Seal and Brake Drum Removal Issues<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Hi - After =
about a 10 year hiatus due to health issues, I'm back on the list. =
It is good to see that this list is still going strong, and was in awe =
that the Dot 3 v. Dot 5 controversy still exists. </span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><img =
width=3D16 height=3D16 style=3D'width:.1666in;height:.1666in' =
id=3D"_x0000_i1025" =
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p>=
</span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p> =
</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>I have a =
1954 TR2 longdoor, TS3388L. I rebuilt every system (brakes, =
electrical, fuel, cooling) 10-15 years ago. I did not have to open =
up the engine, transmission or rear end, as they seemed to be working =
just fine. It is close to original; although it does have a TR3 =
engine and disc brakes on the front (I didn't do it). Everything =
from the transmission back is =
original.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p> =
</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>When I =
parked it, I, unfortunately, did nothing. So, I know that I will =
need to redo and rebuild all of the various systems. I am hoping =
that I do not have to remove the gas tank again, as I parked it with a =
full tank of gas. At some point, I put Marvel Mystery Oil in the =
cylinders.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p> =
</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>I drove it =
many miles all over northern California. My last drive was up to =
Lassen Park. It ran fine; although it developed a leak in one of =
the rear wheel seals. I replaced both seals, and then both leaked =
(par normal for me). At that point, it was =
parked.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p> =
</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Now, I am =
back to it. I am starting with the seals. Someone suggested =
that driving it with the original (?) seals caused a scaring on the axle =
and that I needed to put a sleeve on the axle to ensure a good seal. =
Does that make any sense? Is this something that I can do, or do I =
need to take the axles in to a machine =
shop?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p> =
</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>The right =
rear brake drum came off with minimal effort. I have not been able =
to get the left brake drum off. It has the original 9" =
drums. I have lightly tapped all the way around, to no =
avail. (BTW, I did remove the 2 set screws, and was able to back =
off the shoes, so it spins relatively freely.) I did knock a chip =
off the drum. I hope that doesn't affect the balance of that =
wheel? I have liberally sprayed penetrating oil in every crevice I =
could find. I have not been back out to the shop since applying =
the penetrating oil, due to the poor AQI and heavy smoke from the =
wildfires in northern California. =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p> =
</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>One more =
question: I have 2 sets of near new brake shoes, but they were =
soaked with oil. Somewhere I heard that burying them in a tub of =
kitty litter would draw out the oil. Is this correct? An old =
wives tale?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p> =
</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>So, any =
advice from the combined wisdom of this group is greatly =
appreciated.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p> =
</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Thank =
you,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p> =
</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>David<o:p><=
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