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Re: [TR] TR2 front brake conversion

To: "dave@ranteer.com" <dave@ranteer.com>, "triumphs@autox.team.net" <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] TR2 front brake conversion
From: "Andrew S. Mace" <zoboherald@aol.com>
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2021 00:39:31 +0000 (UTC)
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 Hear, Hear! The comparison to early MGA is especially appropriate, as they=
 are very, very similar Lockheed systems.Years ago, a friend of mine with a=
n MGA 1500 wanted me to check his brakes out. The car really didn't stop al=
l that well, primarily because only one front wheel was actually benefiting=
 from functional brakes! I got him going -- and stopping -- well again with=
 a complete overhaul at all four corners. My only regret was trying to save=
 him money by going with "pattern" wheel cylinders rather than the availabl=
e-but-more-expensive OE Lockheed parts. Those wheel cylinders did function,=
 but they were so badly cast that it took far too much time to carefully fi=
le them to fit.=20
=20
--Andy=20
Andrew Mace
ZoboHerald@aol.com

*Mrs Irrelevant: Oh, is it a jet?
*Man: Well, no ... It's not so much of a jet, it's more your, er, Triumph H=
erald engine with wings.
-- Cut-price Airlines Sketch, Monty Python's Flying Circus (22)

Triumph 10 / Herald / Sports 6 vehicle consultant, The Vintage Triumph Regi=
ster: http://www.vtr.org

Check out the North American Triumph Sports 6 (Vitesse 6) and Triumph Heral=
d Database: http://triumph-herald.us=20
=20
-----Original Message-----
From: dave <dave@ranteer.com>
To: triumphs@autox.team.net
Sent: Thu, Apr 1, 2021 3:44 pm
Subject: Re: [TR] TR2 front brake conversion

TR2s are wonderful quirky old things.=C2=A0 Beware the quest to "modernize"=
 it with discs, rack n pinion steering and the like.=C2=A0 That is chasing =
a rainbow.

There is no good reason to do that unless you are racing.=C2=A0 Drum brakes=
 are adequate to stop the car and keep it original, if you keep the drums i=
n shape.=C2=A0 They do fade faster than disc, but is that an issue?

Or are you doing this because you have brake problems and have not properly=
 diagnosed/repaired the problem?=C2=A0 brake problems are often due to bad =
hoses.=C2=A0 Switch to SS and see if that helps.

Please read this:=C2=A0 https://mgaguru.com/mgtech/brakes/bt202.htm

Yes, it is about MGA, but they are very similar cars and I believe the logi=
c here is the same.
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<div> <font size="3">Hear, Hear! The comparison to early MGA is especially 
appropriate, as they are very, very similar Lockheed systems.Years ago, a 
friend of mine with an MGA 1500 wanted me to check his brakes out. The car 
really didn't stop all that well, primarily because only one front wheel was 
actually benefiting from functional brakes! I got him going -- and <span 
style="font-style: italic;">stopping </span>-- well again with a complete 
overhaul at all four corners. My only regret was trying to save him money by 
going with "pattern" wheel cylinders rather than the 
available-but-more-expensive OE Lockheed parts. Those wheel cylinders did 
function, but they were so badly cast that it took far too much time to 
carefully file them to fit. <img 
src="https://s.aolcdn.com/cdn.webmail.aol.com/resources/core/images/emoji/facewithrollingeyes.png";
 alt="Face with rolling eyes" title="Face with rolling eyes" 
style="vertical-align:text-bottom" width="25" height="25"><br>
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face="arial"><font size="3">--Andy <img 
src="https://s.aolcdn.com/cdn.webmail.aol.com/resources/core/images/emoji/mask.png";
 alt="Mask" title="Mask" style="vertical-align:text-bottom;" width="25" 
height="25"></font><br>
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<div style="font:12pt Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Andrew Mace<br>
ZoboHerald@aol.com<br>
</div>
<br>
<font size="1">*Mrs Irrelevant: Oh, is it a jet?<br>
*Man: Well, no ... It's not so much of a jet, it's more your, er, Triumph 
Herald engine with wings.<br>
-- Cut-price Airlines Sketch, Monty Python's Flying Circus (22)<br>
<br>
Triumph 10 / Herald / Sports 6 vehicle consultant, The Vintage Triumph 
Register: http://www.vtr.org<br>
<br>
Check out the North American Triumph Sports 6 (Vitesse 6) and Triumph Herald 
Database: http://triumph-herald.us</font></div>
</div>

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<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black"><font 
size="2">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: dave &lt;dave@ranteer.com&gt;<br>
To: triumphs@autox.team.net<br>
Sent: Thu, Apr 1, 2021 3:44 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] TR2 front brake conversion<br>
<br>

<div dir="ltr">TR2s are wonderful quirky old things.&nbsp; Beware the quest to 
"modernize" it with discs, rack n pinion steering and the like.&nbsp; That is 
chasing a rainbow.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">There is no good reason to 
do that unless you are racing.&nbsp; Drum brakes are adequate to stop the car 
and keep it original, if you keep the drums in shape.&nbsp; They do fade faster 
than disc, but is that an issue?<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Or are you 
doing this because you have brake problems and have not properly 
diagnosed/repaired the problem?&nbsp; brake problems are often due to bad 
hoses.&nbsp; Switch to SS and see if that helps.<br clear="none"><br 
clear="none">Please read this:&nbsp; <a shape="rect" 
href="https://mgaguru.com/mgtech/brakes/bt202.htm"; 
target="_blank">https://mgaguru.com/mgtech/brakes/bt202.htm</a><br 
clear="none"><br clear="none">Yes, it is about MGA, but they are very similar 
cars and I believe the logic here is the same.</div>
</font></div>
</div>

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