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Re: [TR] TR2 front brake conversion

To: "John.Macartney@Ukpips.org.uk" <John.Macartney@Ukpips.org.uk>, "dave@ranteer.com" <dave@ranteer.com>
Subject: Re: [TR] TR2 front brake conversion
From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com>
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2021 21:52:20 +0000 (UTC)
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 Er... thanks for the vote of confidence but that was Dave Ranteer's advice=
 but I do agree wholeheartedly.=C2=A0 The reason to keep one of these is to=
 appreciate the anachronism.=C2=A0 That is why I kept my 57 bone stock and =
original.=C2=A0 It really makes one appreciate what those boffins did with =
the technology at their disposal at that time.
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Dave=20

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-----Original Message-----
From: John Macartney <John.Macartney@Ukpips.org.uk>
To: dave <dave@ranteer.com>
Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net
Sent: Thu, Apr 1, 2021 4:38 pm
Subject: Re: [TR] TR2 front brake conversion

Hear hear on Dave Masseys input. Unless you plan to regularly use the car o=
n mountain pass type roads where prolonged heavy braking is the norm, those=
 front drums should be fine. The same applies to the MGA and smaller cars l=
ike the Mk 1 Sprite and MG TC. In the mid sixties I used my =E2=80=9848 TC =
(first car) extensively in the Alps of Austria and Switzerland without a pr=
oblem. Just a bit slower on descents and one gear lower than I=E2=80=99d no=
rmally use.

Jonmac

Vote for Guy Fawkes! The only man who entered Parliament with honest intent=
ions.

> On 1 Apr 2021, at 20:44, dave <dave@ranteer.com> wrote:
>=20
> TR2s are wonderful quirky old things.=C2=A0 Beware the quest to "moderniz=
e" it with discs, rack n pinion steering and the like.=C2=A0 That is chasin=
g a rainbow.
>=20
> There is no good reason to do that unless you are racing.=C2=A0 Drum brak=
es are adequate to stop the car and keep it original, if you keep the drums=
 in shape.=C2=A0 They do fade faster than disc, but is that an issue?
>=20
> Or are you doing this because you have brake problems and have not proper=
ly diagnosed/repaired the problem?=C2=A0 brake problems are often due to ba=
d hoses.=C2=A0 Switch to SS and see if that helps.
>=20
> Please read this:=C2=A0 https://mgaguru.com/mgtech/brakes/bt202.htm
>=20
> Yes, it is about MGA, but they are very similar cars and I believe the lo=
gic here is the same.
>=20
>=20
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of John Deluca
> Sent: Thursday, April 1, 2021 12:18 PM
> To: <triumphs@autox.team.net> <triumphs@autox.team.net>
> Subject: [TR] TR2 front brake conversion
>=20
> Listers,
> Am considering converting my 1955 TR2 to front disc brakes.=C2=A0 Have re=
ad in forums what some folks have done.=C2=A0 I could not see a one best wa=
y.=C2=A0 Does anyone have a =E2=80=9Ccookbook recipe=E2=80=9D of the parts =
needed, procedures, etc. for a reliable conversion? I know this is asking a=
 lot and=C2=A0 any suggestions are appreciated.
> John DeLuca
>=20
>=20
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<div> <font size=3D"3">Er... thanks for the vote of confidence but that was=
 Dave Ranteer's advice but I do agree wholeheartedly.&nbsp; The reason to k=
eep one of these is to appreciate the anachronism.&nbsp; That is why I kept=
 my 57 bone stock and original.&nbsp; It really makes one appreciate what t=
hose boffins did with the technology at their disposal at that time.</font>=
<br>
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</div>

<div style=3D"clear:both"><font size=3D"4">Dave </font><br>
<br>
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<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black"><font=
 size=3D"2">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: John Macartney &lt;John.Macartney@Ukpips.org.uk&gt;<br>
To: dave &lt;dave@ranteer.com&gt;<br>
Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net<br>
Sent: Thu, Apr 1, 2021 4:38 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] TR2 front brake conversion<br>
<br>

<div dir=3D"ltr">Hear hear on Dave Masseys input. Unless you plan to regula=
rly use the car on mountain pass type roads where prolonged heavy braking i=
s the norm, those front drums should be fine. The same applies to the MGA a=
nd smaller cars like the Mk 1 Sprite and MG TC. In the mid sixties I used m=
y =E2=80=9848 TC (first car) extensively in the Alps of Austria and Switzer=
land without a problem. Just a bit slower on descents and one gear lower th=
an I=E2=80=99d normally use.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Jonmac<br=
 clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Vote for Guy Fawkes! The only man who en=
tered Parliament with honest intentions.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"non=
e">&gt; On 1 Apr 2021, at 20:44, dave &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mail=
to:dave@ranteer.com" href=3D"mailto:dave@ranteer.com";>dave@ranteer.com</a>&=
gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; TR2s are wonderfu=
l quirky old things.&nbsp; Beware the quest to "modernize" it with discs, r=
ack n pinion steering and the like.&nbsp; That is chasing a rainbow.<br cle=
ar=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; There is no good reason to do that=
 unless you are racing.&nbsp; Drum brakes are adequate to stop the car and =
keep it original, if you keep the drums in shape.&nbsp; They do fade faster=
 than disc, but is that an issue?<br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none"=
>&gt; Or are you doing this because you have brake problems and have not pr=
operly diagnosed/repaired the problem?&nbsp; brake problems are often due t=
o bad hoses.&nbsp; Switch to SS and see if that helps.<br clear=3D"none">&g=
t; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; Please read this:&nbsp; <a shape=3D"rect" href=
=3D"https://mgaguru.com/mgtech/brakes/bt202.htm"; target=3D"_blank">https://=
mgaguru.com/mgtech/brakes/bt202.htm</a><br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D=
"none">&gt; Yes, it is about MGA, but they are very similar cars and I beli=
eve the logic here is the same.<br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&=
gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; -----Original Message--=
---<br clear=3D"none">&gt; From: Triumphs &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"=
mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net"; href=3D"mailto:triumphs-bounces@aut=
ox.team.net">triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt; On Behalf Of John Delu=
ca<br clear=3D"none">&gt; Sent: Thursday, April 1, 2021 12:18 PM<br clear=
=3D"none">&gt; To: &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.t=
eam.net" href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";>triumphs@autox.team.net</a=
>&gt; &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"; href=
=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";>triumphs@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br clea=
r=3D"none">&gt; Subject: [TR] TR2 front brake conversion<br clear=3D"none">=
&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; Listers,<br clear=3D"none">&gt; Am considering=
 converting my 1955 TR2 to front disc brakes.&nbsp; Have read in forums wha=
t some folks have done.&nbsp; I could not see a one best way.&nbsp; Does an=
yone have a =E2=80=9Ccookbook recipe=E2=80=9D of the parts needed, procedur=
es, etc. for a reliable conversion? I know this is asking a lot and&nbsp; a=
ny suggestions are appreciated.<br clear=3D"none">&gt; John DeLuca<br clear=
=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; Sent from my=
 iPad<br clear=3D"none">&gt; ** <a shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:triumph=
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