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Several years ago we started using a battery maintenance device on our airpl=
ane battery during the winter. The battery maintenance device is on a timer=
so it=E2=80=99s on about an hour a day . Since we started using it we have=
we have not had a battery failure. A great improvement over previous batte=
ry life. Aviation batteries are very expensive.
I also have a Battery Minder in the garage that I move between cars in t=
he cold weather. I=E2=80=99ve got a older BMW that generates random ( it s=
eems) trouble codes if I attempt to start it and the battery voltage is low.=
Sent from my iPhone
> On Dec 25, 2020, at 8:52 PM, Jim Henningsen <trguy75@gmail.com> wrote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BF
> Merry Christmas! I took my TR3a out today top down with Santa hat in 50 d=
egree weather. Brrrr. But the heater is working well. =20
> Cheers,
> Jim Henningsen=20
> Ocala fl=20
>=20
>>> On Dec 25, 2020, at 8:28 PM, Alex & Janet Thomson <aljlthomson@charter.n=
et> wrote:
>>>=20
>> =EF=BB=BF
>> I forgot to mention =E2=80=93 here it is Christmas night and there are a b=
unch of us chatting about the relative merits of battery chargers, and we ar=
e doing it from each end of the country. This is why I enjoy this crew so mu=
ch. There is just so much genuine help and assistance. We need to always giv=
e Mark Bradakis a big thank-you for keeping the mechanics of this process up=
and running. Where would we be without his efforts?
>> =20
>> Have a great Christmas, everyone , as well as a good new year. It=E2=80=99=
s now 8:30 in Connecticut and to all, a good night.
>> =20
>> Alex Thomson
>> =20
>> From: Rye Livingston [mailto:ryel@mac.com]=20
>> Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 6:58 PM
>> To: Alex & Janet Thomson
>> Cc: David Friedlander; TR3 Triumphs; list Triumph
>> Subject: Re: [TR] Battery charging
>> =20
>> For what it=E2=80=99s worth, here is an opinion from to experts I was sur=
prised to hear. One is a Porsche mechanic who=E2=80=99s been in the busines=
s for 30+ years. The Interstate battery had died and even pumped out some w=
hite power at the end, out a breather tube from the battery. I cleaned it a=
ll up well, worried about battery acid in the front truck. I went to the sh=
op, he=E2=80=99s an Interstate distributor as well, and bought a new battery=
and told him what happened, and that I=E2=80=99d had the battery connected t=
o a Battery Tender Jr. He told me that even that brand, which is good, is r=
eally not good to leave on all the time, and it will cook the battery. He r=
ecommends putting it on for a week or two, then disconnecting for a week or t=
wo, and repeat. Well that=E2=80=99s a pain.
>> =20
>> Then in my Airstream trailer which has two 12 volt deep cycle batteries, I=
=E2=80=99ve read that the power converter that comes with the trailer also i=
sn=E2=80=99t designed to leave plugged in all the time and it will cook the b=
atteries, which did happen. I tried using a Battery Tender Jr on that but i=
t couldn=E2=80=99t deal with 2 batteries. I was then told about an upgrade f=
or the Airsteam power converter on Amazon, about $200 or so, which I install=
ed and it does manage the float and it can be left plugged in for months and=
months no problem.
>> =20
>> So be careful with Battery Tenders. I have two Battery Tender Jrs and fo=
ur Die Hard battery tenders for multiple cars, Kubota tractor and a boat. J=
ust be careful how long you leave them plugged in and check the water level i=
f it=E2=80=99s not a gel battery. I have an Optima in my Triumph and Kubota=
.
>> =20
>> Good luck,
>> =20
>> Rye
>>=20
>>=20
>> On Dec 25, 2020, at 2:21 PM, Alex & Janet Thomson <aljlthomson@charter.ne=
t> wrote:
>> =20
>> Are the batteries still connected to their cars? Maybe there is a slight d=
raw on the TR6. Our TR6 took the whole summer off because it needs a new wir=
ing harness. There were some wires that had let the smoke out! After I drove=
it into winter storage, I disconnected the ground cable and noticed that th=
ere was a tiny spark! Something is leaking current. Another project to do!
>> =20
>> Alex Thomson
>> =20
>> From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Davi=
d Friedlander
>> Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 3:18 PM
>> To: New England Triumphs; TR3 Triumphs
>> Subject: [TR] Battery charging
>> =20
>> Hey all ~ Merry Christmas ...!
>> =20
>> I have one float charger that serves both my TR3 that has an Optima red t=
op battery and my TR6 that has a Sears Die Hard. Seems like even though each=
battery is only 2 -3 years old, the Die Hard seems to need more frequent =E2=
=80=9Ctopping up=E2=80=9D than the Optima.... Interesting....
>> =20
>> Dave
>> ** triumphs@autox.team.net **
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Several years ago we started using a batter=
y maintenance device on our airplane battery during the winter. The ba=
ttery maintenance device is on a timer so it=E2=80=99s on about an hour a da=
y . Since we started using it we have we have not had a battery failur=
e. A great improvement over previous battery life. Aviation batteries a=
re very expensive.<br> I also have a Battery Minder in the gara=
ge that I move between cars in the cold weather. I=E2=80=99ve got a ol=
der BMW that generates random ( it seems) trouble codes if I att=
empt to start it and the battery voltage is low.<br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent fr=
om my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Dec 25, 2=
020, at 8:52 PM, Jim Henningsen <trguy75@gmail.com> wrote:<br><br></bl=
ockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<meta htt=
p-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8"><div dir=3D"=
ltr">Merry Christmas! I took my TR3a out today top down with Santa hat=
in 50 degree weather. Brrrr. But the heater is working well. &n=
bsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Cheers,</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Jim Henningsen =
;</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Ocala fl </div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote=
type=3D"cite">On Dec 25, 2020, at 8:28 PM, Alex & Janet Thomson <alj=
lthomson@charter.net> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D=
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oNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif&quo=
t;;color:#1F497D">I forgot to mention =E2=80=93 here it is Christmas night a=
nd there are a bunch of us chatting about the relative merits of battery cha=
rgers, and we are doing it from each end of the country. This is why I enjoy=
this crew so much. There is just so much genuine help and assistance. We ne=
ed to always give Mark Bradakis a big thank-you for keeping the mechanics of=
this process up and running. Where would we be without his efforts?<o:p></o=
:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Calibr=
i","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p=
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Calibri","sa=
ns-serif";color:#1F497D">Have a great Christmas, everyone , as well as a=
good new year. It=E2=80=99s now 8:30 in Connecticut and to all, a good nigh=
t.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&q=
uot;Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></s=
pan></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Calibri"=
;,"sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Alex Thomson<o:p></o:p></span></p><p=
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Calibri","sa=
ns-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style=3D=
"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahom=
a","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.=
0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Rye Livingston [=
mailto:ryel@mac.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, December 25, 2020 6:58 PM<br><=
b>To:</b> Alex & Janet Thomson<br><b>Cc:</b> David Friedlander; TR3 Triu=
mphs; list Triumph<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Battery charging<o:p></o:p></=
span></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal">For what it=E2=80=99s worth, here is an opinion from to experts I=
was surprised to hear. One is a Porsche mechanic who=E2=80=99s been i=
n the business for 30+ years. The Interstate battery had died and even=
pumped out some white power at the end, out a breather tube from the batter=
y. I cleaned it all up well, worried about battery acid in the front t=
ruck. I went to the shop, he=E2=80=99s an Interstate distributor as we=
ll, and bought a new battery and told him what happened, and that I=E2=80=99=
d had the battery connected to a Battery Tender Jr. He told me that ev=
en that brand, which is good, is really not good to leave on all the time, a=
nd it will cook the battery. He recommends putting it on for a week or=
two, then disconnecting for a week or two, and repeat. Well that=E2=80=
=99s a pain.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>=
</div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Then in my Airstream trailer which has two=
12 volt deep cycle batteries, I=E2=80=99ve read that the power converter th=
at comes with the trailer also isn=E2=80=99t designed to leave plugged in al=
l the time and it will cook the batteries, which did happen. I tried u=
sing a Battery Tender Jr on that but it couldn=E2=80=99t deal with 2 batteri=
es. I was then told about an upgrade for the Airsteam power converter o=
n Amazon, about $200 or so, which I installed and it does manage the float a=
nd it can be left plugged in for months and months no problem.<o:p></o:p></p=
></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal">So be careful with Battery Tenders. I have two Battery Ten=
der Jrs and four Die Hard battery tenders for multiple cars, Kubota tractor a=
nd a boat. Just be careful how long you leave them plugged in and chec=
k the water level if it=E2=80=99s not a gel battery. I have an Optima i=
n my Triumph and Kubota.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:=
p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Good luck,<o:p></o:p></p=
></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal">Rye<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br><br><o:p></o:p=
></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Dec 25, 2020, at 2:21 PM, Alex & Jan=
et Thomson <<a href=3D"mailto:aljlthomson@charter.net";>aljlthomson@charte=
r.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> <=
/o:p></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"C=
alibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Are the batteries still c=
onnected to their cars? Maybe there is a slight draw on the TR6. Our TR6 too=
k the whole summer off because it needs a new wiring harness. There were som=
e wires that had let the smoke out! After I drove it into winter storage, I d=
isconnected the ground cable and noticed that there was a tiny spark! Someth=
ing is leaking current. Another project to do!</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><d=
iv><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Calibri",&qu=
ot;sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p=
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Calibri","sa=
ns-serif";color:#1F497D">Alex Thomson</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Calibri","s=
ans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma=
","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span class=3D"apple-converte=
d-space"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",&quo=
t;sans-serif""> </span></span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font=
-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Triumphs [<a href=3D"mail=
to:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net">mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net</=
a>]<span class=3D"apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span c=
lass=3D"apple-converted-space"> </span></b>David Friedlander<br><b>Sent=
:</b><span class=3D"apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, December 25,=
2020 3:18 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class=3D"apple-converted-space"> </spa=
n>New England Triumphs; TR3 Triumphs<br><b>Subject:</b><span class=3D"apple-=
converted-space"> </span>[TR] Battery charging</span><o:p></o:p></p></d=
iv><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"M=
soNormal">Hey all ~ Merry Christmas ...!<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal">I have one float charger that serves both my TR3 that has an Optima r=
ed top battery and my TR6 that has a Sears Die Hard. Seems like even though e=
ach battery is only 2 -3 years old, the Die Hard seems to need more frequent=
=E2=80=9Ctopping up=E2=80=9D than the Optima.... Interesting....<o:p></o:p>=
</p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p></div>=
</div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Dave<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica&=
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