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To: "'Rye Livingston'" <ryel@mac.com>
Subject: Re: [TR] Battery charging
From: "Alex & Janet Thomson" <aljlthomson@charter.net>
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 19:52:31 -0500
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I have a Battery Tender Plus (1.25 amp) that I rotate between a couple =
of Triumphs and several garden tractors. Since I walk past these =
machines at least once a day when I go to my upstairs office in the =
barn, there is no issue with rotating the charger around. Sometimes I =
use an older (1970s) Balkamp 3 amp charger. What I have not done is to =
monitor what the battery voltage climbs to when on the charger for more =
than several days. I figure a couple of days, twice per month should be =
plenty of maintenance charging, especially when the batteries are =
ungrounded from the vehicle. I also have a LaMarche 5 amp float charger =
that came off a standby generator from our firehouse. Those charges are =
left on continuously and I can=E2=80=99t help but think they must work =
well. Those are very high end machines but they appear on e-bay, etc. =
They are also large and are designed for permanent mounting.

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I know of a fellow one town away who has an antique tractor collection =
of at least 30 machines. Every tractor is plugged into a battery =
maintainer. I think he uses the brand that is the parent company of the =
old Solar name. Don=E2=80=99t know if he actually has a tractor start-up =
day every now and then or not.

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https://cloreautomotive.com/battery-chargers/=20

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Alex Thomson

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From: Rye Livingston [mailto:ryel@mac.com]=20
Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 6:58 PM
To: Alex & Janet Thomson
Cc: David Friedlander; TR3 Triumphs; list Triumph
Subject: Re: [TR] Battery charging

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For what it=E2=80=99s worth, here is an opinion from to experts I was =
surprised to hear.  One is a Porsche mechanic who=E2=80=99s been in the =
business for 30+ years.  The Interstate battery had died and even pumped =
out some white power at the end, out a breather tube from the battery.  =
I cleaned it all up well, worried about battery acid in the front truck. =
 I went to the shop, he=E2=80=99s an Interstate distributor as well, and =
bought a new battery and told him what happened, and that I=E2=80=99d =
had the battery connected to a Battery Tender Jr.  He told me that even =
that brand, which is good, is really not good to leave on all the time, =
and it will cook the battery.  He recommends putting it on for a week or =
two, then disconnecting for a week or two, and repeat.  Well =
that=E2=80=99s a pain.

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Then in my Airstream trailer which has two 12 volt deep cycle batteries, =
I=E2=80=99ve read that the power converter that comes with the trailer =
also isn=E2=80=99t designed to leave plugged in all the time and it will =
cook the batteries, which did happen.  I tried using a Battery Tender Jr =
on that but it couldn=E2=80=99t deal with 2 batteries.  I was then told =
about an upgrade for the Airsteam power converter on Amazon, about $200 =
or so, which I installed and it does manage the float and it can be left =
plugged in for months and months no problem.

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So be careful with Battery Tenders.  I have two Battery Tender Jrs and =
four Die Hard battery tenders for multiple cars, Kubota tractor and a =
boat.  Just be careful how long you leave them plugged in and check the =
water level if it=E2=80=99s not a gel battery.  I have an Optima in my =
Triumph and Kubota.

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Good luck,

=20

Rye





On Dec 25, 2020, at 2:21 PM, Alex & Janet Thomson =
<aljlthomson@charter.net> wrote:

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Are the batteries still connected to their cars? Maybe there is a slight =
draw on the TR6. Our TR6 took the whole summer off because it needs a =
new wiring harness. There were some wires that had let the smoke out! =
After I drove it into winter storage, I disconnected the ground cable =
and noticed that there was a tiny spark! Something is leaking current. =
Another project to do!

=20

Alex Thomson

=20

From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of =
David Friedlander
Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 3:18 PM
To: New England Triumphs; TR3 Triumphs
Subject: [TR] Battery charging

=20

Hey all ~ Merry Christmas ...!

=20

I have one float charger that serves both my TR3 that has an Optima red =
top battery and my TR6 that has a Sears Die Hard. Seems like even though =
each battery is only 2 -3 years old, the Die Hard seems to need more =
frequent =E2=80=9Ctopping up=E2=80=9D than the Optima.... =
Interesting....

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Dave

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class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I have a =
Battery Tender Plus (1.25 amp) that I rotate between a couple of =
Triumphs and several garden tractors. Since I walk past these machines =
at least once a day when I go to my upstairs office in the barn, there =
is no issue with rotating the charger around. Sometimes I use an older =
(1970s) Balkamp 3 amp charger. What I have not done is to monitor what =
the battery voltage climbs to when on the charger for more than several =
days. I figure a couple of days, twice per month should be plenty of =
maintenance charging, especially when the batteries are ungrounded from =
the vehicle. I also have a LaMarche 5 amp float charger that came off a =
standby generator from our firehouse. Those charges are left on =
continuously and I can=E2=80=99t help but think they must work well. =
Those are very high end machines but they appear on e-bay, etc. They are =
also large and are designed for permanent =
mounting.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o=
:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a =
href=3D"https://www.bing.com/search?q=3DlaMarche%20battery%20charger&amp;=
qs=3Dn&amp;form=3DQBRE&amp;sp=3D-1&amp;pq=3Dlamarche%20battery%20charger&=
amp;sc=3D7-24&amp;sk=3D&amp;cvid=3DD01F2B213A14453E8D7DCFB4CAEE4736">http=
s://www.bing.com/search?q=3DlaMarche%20battery%20charger&amp;qs=3Dn&amp;f=
orm=3DQBRE&amp;sp=3D-1&amp;pq=3Dlamarche%20battery%20charger&amp;sc=3D7-2=
4&amp;sk=3D&amp;cvid=3DD01F2B213A14453E8D7DCFB4CAEE4736</a> =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o=
:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I know of a =
fellow one town away who has an antique tractor collection of at least =
30 machines. Every tractor is plugged into a battery maintainer. I think =
he uses the brand that is the parent company of the old Solar name. =
Don=E2=80=99t know if he actually has a tractor start-up day every now =
and then or not.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o=
:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a =
href=3D"https://cloreautomotive.com/battery-chargers/";>https://cloreautom=
otive.com/battery-chargers/</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o=
:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Alex =
Thomson<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o=
:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o=
:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o=
:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o=
:p></span></p><div><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF =
1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Rye Livingston [mailto:ryel@mac.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, December =
25, 2020 6:58 PM<br><b>To:</b> Alex &amp; Janet Thomson<br><b>Cc:</b> =
David Friedlander; TR3 Triumphs; list Triumph<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: =
[TR] Battery charging<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>For what =
it=E2=80=99s worth, here is an opinion from to experts I was surprised =
to hear. &nbsp;One is a Porsche mechanic who=E2=80=99s been in the =
business for 30+ years. &nbsp;The Interstate battery had died and even =
pumped out some white power at the end, out a breather tube from the =
battery. &nbsp;I cleaned it all up well, worried about battery acid in =
the front truck. &nbsp;I went to the shop, he=E2=80=99s an Interstate =
distributor as well, and bought a new battery and told him what =
happened, and that I=E2=80=99d had the battery connected to a Battery =
Tender Jr. &nbsp;He told me that even that brand, which is good, is =
really not good to leave on all the time, and it will cook the battery. =
&nbsp;He recommends putting it on for a week or two, then disconnecting =
for a week or two, and repeat. &nbsp;Well that=E2=80=99s a =
pain.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Then in my Airstream trailer which has two 12 volt =
deep cycle batteries, I=E2=80=99ve read that the power converter that =
comes with the trailer also isn=E2=80=99t designed to leave plugged in =
all the time and it will cook the batteries, which did happen. &nbsp;I =
tried using a Battery Tender Jr on that but it couldn=E2=80=99t deal =
with 2 batteries. &nbsp;I was then told about an upgrade for the =
Airsteam power converter on Amazon, about $200 or so, which I installed =
and it does manage the float and it can be left plugged in for months =
and months no problem.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>So be careful with Battery Tenders. &nbsp;I have two =
Battery Tender Jrs and four Die Hard battery tenders for multiple cars, =
Kubota tractor and a boat. &nbsp;Just be careful how long you leave them =
plugged in and check the water level if it=E2=80=99s not a gel battery. =
&nbsp;I have an Optima in my Triumph and =
Kubota.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Good luck,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Rye<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Dec 25, 2020, at 2:21 PM, Alex &amp; Janet Thomson &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:aljlthomson@charter.net";>aljlthomson@charter.net</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Are the =
batteries still connected to their cars? Maybe there is a slight draw on =
the TR6. Our TR6 took the whole summer off because it needs a new wiring =
harness. There were some wires that had let the smoke out! After I drove =
it into winter storage, I disconnected the ground cable and noticed that =
there was a tiny spark! Something is leaking current. Another project to =
do!</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><=
o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Alex =
Thomson</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><=
o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span class=3Dapple-converted-space><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span=
></span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Triumphs =
[<a =
href=3D"mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net";>mailto:triumphs-bounces@a=
utox.team.net</a>]<span class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span><b>On =
Behalf Of<span class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span></b>David =
Friedlander<br><b>Sent:</b><span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span>Friday, December 25, 2020 =
3:18 PM<br><b>To:</b><span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span>New England Triumphs; TR3 =
Triumphs<br><b>Subject:</b><span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span>[TR] Battery =
charging</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Hey all ~ Merry Christmas =
...!<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>I have one float charger that serves both my TR3 that =
has an Optima red top battery and my TR6 that has a Sears Die Hard. =
Seems like even though each battery is only 2 -3 years old, the Die Hard =
seems to need more frequent =E2=80=9Ctopping up=E2=80=9D than the =
Optima.... Interesting....<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Dave<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
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