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Re: [TR] TR4A - This Seems Odd

To: "G.D. Huggins" <gdhuggins@genfiniti.com>
Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A - This Seems Odd
From: "Wbeech@flash.net" <wbeech@flash.net>
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2019 16:26:09 -0500
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Lots of variables to consider:
-Butterflies may not be fully closing, lift the piston and shine a light in,=
 should be tight and even all around.  I presume you have solid butterflies?=

-positions on the stop levers May be a tad off, keeping the butterflies open=
=20
-Jet needle may be set in too high, you could drop them 1/16=E2=80=9D and se=
e what happens. =20
-A friend of mine was given the advice to run the jet barrel adjusting nut a=
ll the way up, then loosen the jet needle just a little so it will slide wit=
h a little pressure, then return the piston to the body and let the needle b=
ottom out in the jet barrel.  This should bring you to zero, tighten the nee=
dle in its new position and open the adjusting nut two turns to begin.   Has=
 anyone else tried this method?  I haven=E2=80=99t but it seems to make sens=
e.=20

Bill B

Sent from my IBM 8088

On Sep 6, 2019, at 9:34 AM, G.D. Huggins <gdhuggins@genfiniti.com> wrote:

All,

Here=E2=80=99s another thing to ponder whilst I wait for my rebuilt lever sh=
ocks to arrive..

My engine will idle under the following conditions:
Idle screws are backed off all the way, not touching the plate, therefore no=
t opening the throttle plate.  (In theory, they are fully closed.)
Mixtures nuts all the way lean. (In theory, there should be ZERO fuel going i=
nto the carbs.)
Both the throttle and choke are loosened from the linkage, making sure jets a=
re all the way up, and throttles are not sticking
For the record, these are professionally rebuilt HS6 carbs, with super throt=
tle shaft bushing, perfectly centered jets, etc.

In what is ostensibly a ZERO fuel/air mixture, how is this engine running?
Do these engines just have a magic power to idle when starved?

Has anyone else witnessed this on their own cars?
If so, should I do anything?  If so, what?  (other than maybe looking to mak=
e sure the needles/jets are matched correctly)


Kind Regards,

Guy D. Huggins
gdhuggins@genfiniti.com
817.454.6415




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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Lots of variables to consider:<div>-Butterf=
lies may not be fully closing, lift the piston and shine a light in, should b=
e tight and even all around. &nbsp;I presume you have solid butterflies?</di=
v><div>-positions on the stop levers May be a tad off, keeping the butterfli=
es open&nbsp;</div><div>-Jet needle may be set in too high, you could drop t=
hem 1/16=E2=80=9D and see what happens. &nbsp;</div><div>-A friend of mine w=
as given the advice to run the jet barrel adjusting nut all the way up, then=
 loosen the jet needle just a little so it will slide with a little pressure=
, then return the piston to the body and let the needle bottom out in the je=
t barrel. &nbsp;This should bring you to zero, tighten the needle in its new=
 position and open the adjusting nut two turns to begin. &nbsp; Has anyone e=
lse tried this method? &nbsp;I haven=E2=80=99t but it seems to make sense.&n=
bsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Bill B<br><br><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature" d=
ir=3D"ltr">Sent from my IBM 8088</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Sep 6, 2019, a=
t 9:34 AM, G.D. Huggins &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gdhuggins@genfiniti.com";>gdhug=
gins@genfiniti.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><meta http-e=
quiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8">All,<div class=3D=
""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Here=E2=80=99s another thing to pond=
er whilst I wait for my rebuilt lever shocks to arrive..</div><div class=3D"=
"><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">My engine will idle under the followi=
ng conditions:</div><div class=3D""><ul class=3D""><li class=3D"">Idle screw=
s are backed off all the way, not touching the plate, therefore not opening t=
he throttle plate. &nbsp;(In theory, they are fully closed.)</li><li class=3D=
"">Mixtures nuts all the way lean. (In theory, there should be ZERO fuel goi=
ng into the carbs.)</li><li class=3D"">Both the throttle and choke are loose=
ned from the linkage, making sure jets are all the way up, and throttles are=
 not sticking</li></ul></div><div class=3D"">For the record, these are profe=
ssionally rebuilt HS6 carbs, with super throttle shaft bushing, perfectly ce=
ntered jets, etc.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">=
In what is ostensibly a ZERO fuel/air mixture, how is this engine running?</=
div><div class=3D"">Do these engines just have a magic power to idle when st=
arved?</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Has anyone e=
lse witnessed this on their own cars?</div><div class=3D"">If so, should I d=
o anything? &nbsp;If so, what? &nbsp;(other than maybe looking to make sure t=
he needles/jets are matched correctly)</div><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><d=
iv class=3D"">
<div style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-=
break: after-white-space;" class=3D""><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); fon=
t-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps:=
 normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; tex=
t-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;=
 -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">Kind Regards,<br class=3D""><br class=3D""=
>Guy D. Huggins<br class=3D""><a href=3D"mailto:gdhuggins@genfiniti.com"; cla=
ss=3D"">gdhuggins@genfiniti.com</a><br class=3D"">817.454.6415</div><div sty=
le=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-sty=
le: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: n=
ormal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-spac=
e: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><b=
r class=3D""></div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"></div><br class=3D=
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