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Re: [TR] TR4 Starter question

To: Randall <tr3driver@ca.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [TR] TR4 Starter question
From: James Henningsen <trguy75@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2019 14:44:06 -0500
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Thanks for the info.  Yes itâ??s TS65651L.  I didnâ??t know there was a 
difference.  Jim

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> On Jan 22, 2019, at 12:43 PM, Randall <tr3driver@ca.rr.com> wrote:
> 
> That would mean your TR3A is after TS50000 (when the change in starters
> happened).  Starters before that had the drive enclosed inside the housing,
> rather than hanging out the end; and a bonded rubber coupling to help
> cushion the shock of the pinion slamming into the flywheel.  That bonded
> rubber drive often fails, especially on engines with larger displacement and
> higher compression.  BFE once had a run of "improved fail-safe" drives made
> just for the racers; I think I still have the last two that Ken sold.  Has
> paddles and polyurethane cushions instead of the bonded rubber.
> 
> The starter with the exposed drive and a big spring cushion instead of the
> bonded rubber started at TS50001, and continued through the end of TR4A.
> They had to make a lot of other changes to accommodate the starter change
> (the flywheel, ring gear and gearbox casting all changed to match the
> starter), so my guess is that failure of that drive was a common complaint
> even back then.
> 
> Count yourself lucky it's never happened on the '3.  I've spent what seemed
> like hours in the freezing cold (but in reality was only a few minutes),
> repeatedly having to stop and wait for the starter to stop spinning after
> one cylinder fired but not the next one.  My last 3A had the early starter,
> but the one before that had the later starter (and the same problem).
> 
> -- Randall  
> 
>> Hmmn.   Very interesting indeed.  My 4 is an early one and 
>> the starter looks just like my TR3As.  I never heard of the 
>> starter stopping as engine fires.  My 3 keeps cranking as 
>> long as I push the button.  Jim
>> 
> 
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