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Subject: [Fot] Cylinder head freeze plug help
From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1)
Date: Thu, 3 May 2018 07:39:17 -0400
I routinely strap that rear plug or lock it in with a 10/32 and a flat washer 
folded in on either side.
Overkill... perhaps, but that sucker isn't coming out.
Glen

 

 

 

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From: Greg Blake via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
To: Jerry Van Vlack <jerryvv at roadrunner.com>
Cc: FOT Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thu, May 3, 2018 3:33 am
Subject: Re: [Fot] Cylinder head freeze plug help


I had one pop out on me at the Sunday afternoon race of the Kastner cup at Road 
Atlanta a few years ago. I was bummed to miss out on the remaining laps so 
figured I did not want that to happen again. 


When I pulled the head, I drilled and tapped to 10-32 holes each side of the 
rear freeze plug. After installing the new plug, I installed a bar that spans 
the plug and bolts to the head using the two trapped holes. In the center of 
the bar is a weld nut that I run a bolt through to put a little pressure on the 
freeze plug. Probably over kill, but Won?t be popping again. 


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On May 2, 2018, at 12:30 PM, Jerry Van Vlack via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> 
wrote:




It goes without saying that you should coat the edges with a good epoxy before 
you bonk it.
JVV

 

From: JAMES GRAY via Fot 
Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2018 11:12 AM
To: Jack Wheeler 
Cc: FOT Triumph 
Subject: Re: [Fot] Cylinder head freeze plug help

 
Jack,
The old freeze plug was found last night under my catch tank at the battery 
tray. It didn't have much of a ding in it
so I suspect it could have been flattened more/better when it was first put in.
Last night I was able to clear stuff as required to drill a 1/2" hole in the 
firewall directly behind the plug.
I already have a length of 1/2" solid round bar, tapered/rounded at the end in 
the hole just waiting for the new plug to arrive.
The round bar runs right under the dash. I'll be able to knock it in from the 
cockpit with a 3 pounder.
The car was running better than ever when it went, compression is at 200 psi on 
all four so at the moment
I don't have any reason to believe there are other problems. No evidence at all 
of water in the oil or cylinders.
However, once the plug is replaced and running again there will be detailed 
inspections once it's back up to running temp.
jim g
On May 2, 2018 at 8:40 AM Jack Wheeler   <jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com> wrote:

  
  
Hi Jim.  Consider this.  Pulling the head may give you the most   correct fit, 
and also may be quicker, all things considered.  When I was   racing, and had 
to pull the head at the race track, I could get it off and   back on, new head 
gasket, and nuts torqued, in under an hour.  By the   time you make clearance 
under the dash, and drive the plug in, possibly not   aligned correctly, I'll 
bet you will have over an hour invested.  Good   luck.
  
  
 
  
Jack
  

PS.  have you determined what caused the freeze plug to blow   out?  The one 
time I had that happen at the race track, it was the result   of a major 
cylinder head failure.  You may be looking at a bigger problem   than just the 
freeze plug.


  
 
  
 
  
  
  
On Tuesday, May 1, 2018, 8:53:42 PM EDT, Duncan Charlton via Fot   <fot at 
autox.team.net> wrote:
  
 
  
 
  
  
  
I used one of those expandable core plugs on a BMW 2002 and left it in   for 
the next 60,000 miles with no sign of leaks.   
 
  
Duncan
  
  

  
    
On May 1, 2018, at 9:47     AM, William T newman <mnewman at embarqmail.com>    
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I've     used a neoprene plug at the track to get by until I could pull the 
head.

    
Bill     Newman

    
#44     GT6

    
 
    
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From: Jim Gray via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
To: 'Duncan     Charlton' <duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com>,     'fot' <fot at 
autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, 01 May     2018 07:44:38 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [Fot] Cylinder head freeze plug help

    
 
    
    
Duncan,
    
I think that?s     where I?m going next, the freeze plug is just about in line 
with
    
the bottom of the     dash or close. The good thing is it blew the old plug 
completely out.
    
I just need to     knock a new one in.
    
I?m pretty sure I     can go under the dash and through with a piece of ? or 
even ?? round
    
bar about 2? long     which I can scrounge at work.
    
I?ll have to remove     some stuff but still better than pulling the head.
    
jim
    

 
    
    
    
From: Duncan     Charlton <duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com> 
Sent: Tuesday,     May 1, 2018 5:36 AM
To: fot     <fot at autox.team.net>; Jim Gray     <toodamnfunky at comcast.net>
Subject: Re:     [Fot] Cylinder head freeze plug help

    

 
    
Can you drill a     hole through the firewall and drive it out or yank it out 
that way?
    
    

 
    
    
Duncan
    
    
 
    
 
    
      
      
On Apr 30, 2018,       at 6:57 PM, Jim Gray via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> 
wrote:
      

 
      
      
      
FoT
      
      
I was wondering       if anyone has a clever method of putting in a cylinder 
head freeze plug       without removing the head.
      
      
I was instructing       at our drivers school this past weekend when it blew 
out.
      
      
I may have enough       room between the firewall to use a short blunt air 
chisel
      
      
but I have my       doubts so if anyone has a better one please let me know.
      
      
Thanks as       always,
      
      
jim g
      
      

 
      
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