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Subject: [Fot] Cylinder head freeze plug help
From: jerryvv at roadrunner.com (Jerry Van Vlack)
Date: Wed, 2 May 2018 13:30:55 -0400
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It goes without saying that you should coat the edges with a good epoxy before 
you bonk it.
JVV

From: JAMES GRAY via Fot 
Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2018 11:12 AM
To: Jack Wheeler 
Cc: FOT Triumph 
Subject: Re: [Fot] Cylinder head freeze plug help

Jack,

The old freeze plug was found last night under my catch tank at the battery 
tray. It didn't have much of a ding in it

so I suspect it could have been flattened more/better when it was first put in.

Last night I was able to clear stuff as required to drill a 1/2" hole in the 
firewall directly behind the plug.

I already have a length of 1/2" solid round bar, tapered/rounded at the end in 
the hole just waiting for the new plug to arrive.

The round bar runs right under the dash. I'll be able to knock it in from the 
cockpit with a 3 pounder.

The car was running better than ever when it went, compression is at 200 psi on 
all four so at the moment

I don't have any reason to believe there are other problems. No evidence at all 
of water in the oil or cylinders.

However, once the plug is replaced and running again there will be detailed 
inspections once it's back up to running temp.

jim g

  On May 2, 2018 at 8:40 AM Jack Wheeler <jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com> wrote:


  Hi Jim.  Consider this.  Pulling the head may give you the most correct fit, 
and also may be quicker, all things considered.  When I was racing, and had to 
pull the head at the race track, I could get it off and back on, new head 
gasket, and nuts torqued, in under an hour.  By the time you make clearance 
under the dash, and drive the plug in, possibly not aligned correctly, I'll bet 
you will have over an hour invested.  Good luck.


  Jack


  PS.  have you determined what caused the freeze plug to blow out?  The one 
time I had that happen at the race track, it was the result of a major cylinder 
head failure.  You may be looking at a bigger problem than just the freeze plug.



  On Tuesday, May 1, 2018, 8:53:42 PM EDT, Duncan Charlton via Fot <fot at 
autox.team.net> wrote:


  I used one of those expandable core plugs on a BMW 2002 and left it in for 
the next 60,000 miles with no sign of leaks. 

  Duncan



    On May 1, 2018, at 9:47 AM, William T newman <mnewman at embarqmail.com> 
wrote:

    I've used a neoprene plug at the track to get by until I could pull the 
head.

    Bill Newman

    #44 GT6


    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Jim Gray via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
    To: 'Duncan Charlton' <duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com>, 'fot' <fot at 
autox.team.net>
    Sent: Tue, 01 May 2018 07:44:38 -0400 (EDT)
    Subject: Re: [Fot] Cylinder head freeze plug help


    Duncan,

    I think that?s where I?m going next, the freeze plug is just about in line 
with

    the bottom of the dash or close. The good thing is it blew the old plug 
completely out.

    I just need to knock a new one in.

    I?m pretty sure I can go under the dash and through with a piece of ? or 
even ?? round

    bar about 2? long which I can scrounge at work.

    I?ll have to remove some stuff but still better than pulling the head.

    jim


     
    From: Duncan Charlton <duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com> 
    Sent: Tuesday, May 1, 2018 5:36 AM
    To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>; Jim Gray <toodamnfunky at comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: [Fot] Cylinder head freeze plug help


     
    Can you drill a hole through the firewall and drive it out or yank it out 
that way?


     
    Duncan




      On Apr 30, 2018, at 6:57 PM, Jim Gray via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> 
wrote:


       
      FoT

      I was wondering if anyone has a clever method of putting in a cylinder 
head freeze plug without removing the head.

      I was instructing at our drivers school this past weekend when it blew 
out.

      I may have enough room between the firewall to use a short blunt air 
chisel

      but I have my doubts so if anyone has a better one please let me know.

      Thanks as always,

      jim g


       
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