Bill, if all the cheaters in vintage were black flagged, half the field
wouldn't finish! Cheaters is a harsh word; non-compliant sounds better.
I know of guys with mid-50's Corvettes, and one T Bird, who run big disc
brakes, not the original drums. One of whom runs a vintage organization!!!!!!
Also, I like Tony but a 9 inch Ford diff in a TR4? All vintage rules say the
diff housing has to be stock.
I also like Sam, who's given me a lot of advice over the years, but is his car
truely vintage legal? Frankly, I don't care.
This will probably get me blackballed, but....
I also don't give a hoot what you run or how legal it is or isn't. Just go out
and have fun.
I've gotten 1 (one) medal in 11 years of vintage racing; not a very successful
effort, you might say. (so would I!). But I've had an 'effen blast! And met a
bunch of great people. And did what I set out to do.
OK, I wrote this last night and thought I'd sleep on it. After reading the
comment about Formula Libra, I guess other people feel as I do.
Were all the cars running today raced "back in the day" or were they built to
go vintage racing today?
Ever see a tech inspector crawl under your car and check to see if the drain
plugs were safety wired? Or check brakes or diffs?
Full disclosure: I run a Celica 5 speed, legal according to the rules. Hitachi
carbs (the Japs took SU's and improved them).
I don't like cheaters. I help with the Erie Marathon where 43% or our finishers
qualified for the Boston Marathon, the goal of every good runner. The last
couple years we ferreted out 3 cheaters. They will never, ever be allowed into
the Boston Marathon. That's why I like running, kind of a pure sport where
technology doesn't help you much.
OK, end of rant.
Hang loose. (I'm reading Brian Wilson's book, so I thought a surfing term would
be ok!)
Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Dentinger via Fot
To: John Styduhar
Cc: fot at autox. team. net
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2018 9:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Fot] Has anybody ran these new brake calipers?
Good for SVRA. If I were the Vintage Grand Poo Pah, I would take a note of
tire cheaters on the False Grid, and then bring em in with a Meat Ball Flag
after one lap in the Feature Race.
Bill Dentinger
PS Three sets of tires needed. One for qualifying...one for the feature
race...and a special set for Tech. That latter set can be experienced, but must
have a minimum tread depth.
Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 8, 2018, at 2:08 PM, John Styduhar via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:
The only item that SVRA regularly checks is tires from my experience. And
they do that at each gridding.
On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 2:49 PM, Paul Ricco via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:
We have not had issues with stock calipers. We run Hawk or Carbotech
brake pads and good brake fluid. We do bleed the brakes regularly and all
seems to be working good.
It would be nice to get the benefit of less unsprung weight on the front
suspension by switching to aluminum. However, I do not know of any vintage
organization that really allows it by their rules. We all know that that do
not get enforced on a regular basis. However, I do think SVRA has made a great
effort to get people to use a stock type caliper at their events.
Paul
On Mar 8, 2018, at 11:26 AM, Chris Marx via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:
I?m still using the original brakes the car came with.
I?ve put in some nice brake pads and that is working well for me.
Cheers
Chris
Von: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> Im Auftrag von DAVE HOGYE via
Fot
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 8. M?rz 2018 17:28
An: Scott Janzen <sjanzen at me.com>
Cc: Friends of Triumph' Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Betreff: Re: [Fot] Has anybody ran these new brake calipers?
Good call, Scott. The Wilwood calipers are aluminum, but otherwise
look very similar to the the P or PB calipers.
DH
On March 8, 2018 at 8:21 AM Scott Janzen <sjanzen at me.com> wrote:
good to check your club rules first though, if enforced. VRG says
you need to use the original equipment, and SVRA says
Alternate calipers or wheel cylinders must be of the same material,
design and number of pistons as the original component. There must be no
increase in the frictional surface of the pads or shoes.
On Mar 8, 2018, at 11:09 AM, DAVE HOGYE via Fot <fot at
autox.team.net> wrote:
The quality of the new calipers is somewhat suspect, but seem to work
as needed.
The first pair that I bought from BPNW had a yellow (anodized ?)
finish with numbers in the castings. The second pair from BPNW 4 years later
have a silver finish and no numbers in the casting which made me wonder about
the quality.
My first set has been on my car from 2013. 13 race weekends a total
of 3,800 miles.
Wilwood makes beautiful replacements now. They are anodized black.
I far as I can tell, they will fit our Triumphs, but haven't made a complete
comparison. Of course the price is higher, but more equivalent to the
importance of good brakes.
DH
On March 8, 2018 at 2:54 AM Henry Frye via Fot <fot at
autox.team.net> wrote:
I have seen these available for a while now, but fear they are made
somewhere we don't want to know from materials I don't want to
think
about. I'm not brave enough to put one of these on a street car,
let
alone my race car.
Has anybody tried these calipers yet? Any feedback???
As long as good cores are available for 16P's, I'm rebuilding OEM
calipers.
Henry
On 2018-03-07 23:24, DAVE HOGYE via Fot wrote:
BTW, the PB calipers are available new for around $100 each new.
That's pretty inexpensive for such an important part. I purchased
another set when I thought I might be having a problem, but ended
up
just changing pads. I'm glad to have a new pair standing by.
Then I
can rebuild at my leisure.
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