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Oh, I see the car type in the thread title, duh.
Harold,
I'm thinking that you might be talking about the trunnion. If the trunnion is
obviously worn and if you are going to disassemble the front suspension to
replace it, then a total suspension rebuild would be in order.
The trunnion is the most expensive part to service correctly. An experience
mechanic might be considered for this work. Studying a proper manual would be a
good place to start.
To replace the trunnions, I would do both sides, there are bronze bushings in
the a-arms that need to be replaced and honed to fit the new trunnions.
An automotive machinist should perform this job.
The rest of the rebuild is fairly easy.
I can guaranty that you would not regret rebuilding the suspension and steering
if it is needed. It will transform the handling of your TR.
Best of luck,
Dave H.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Harold Sawatsky" <hsawatsk@sasktel.net>
To: "davehogye" <dlhogye@comcast.net>
Cc: "Tony Drews" <tony@tonydrews.com>, "TR3driver Randall"
<TR3driver@ca.rr.com>, "TR list" <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 3:14:02 PM
Subject: Re: [TR] Removing Tie-rod 56TR3
OK. I'll sit down I front of it in the morning.
And, my terminology could definitely be off. I thought I had a good look but
marble not.
Good advice
Thanks
Harold Sawatsky
Remax Crown Real Estate
306-535-6961
hsawatsky@remax.com
On Jan 22, 2016, at 1:58 PM, davehogye < dlhogye@comcast.net > wrote:
All good solid advice.
The fulcrum pin is the inside upper and lower a-arm pivots. The upper pin is
replaceable, but the lower isn't really. Are you sure that you have the parts
terminology correct? What car is this?
The upper pin replacement wouldn't necessarily include removable of the tie rod
end.
Dave H.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Drews" < tony@tonydrews.com >
To: "Randall" < TR3driver@ca.rr.com >, "Harold Sawatsky" < hsawatsk@sasktel.net
>, triumphs@autox.team.net
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 10:44:00 AM
Subject: Re: [TR] Removing Tie-rod 56TR3
+1 on that style of ball joint separator - seems to be much nicer to
the ball joint, especially if I'm taking it apart but don't plan to
replace the ball joint.
Tony Drews
At 09:41 AM 1/22/2016, Randall wrote:
> > First, thanks for all the input I received before Xmas. The
> > project this weekend is to remove the tie rod as one of the
> > fulcrum pins is completely destroyed
>
>A very common problem in my experience. You might want to consider
>upgrading to the Delrin/SS joints as sold by ARE & TRF. They
>will last much longer.
>
> > Also, should we replace any other bushings while we are
> > doing this? It does look like most other components are in
> > good condition.
>
>The inner A-arm bushings are another common problem, IMO;
>particularly the upper ones. For the other joints, pry and wiggle against
>them looking for any movement. In general, if you can see them move
>at all in ways they are not supposed to, the joint should be
>replaced.
>
>Also look for any play in the steering box. If you see any, my
>suggestion is to rebuild it rather than trying to adjust the screw
>on the top. It's to compensate for manufacturing tolerances, not wear IMO.
>
> > Trying to find some documentation or advice as to the best
> > way to proceed and do I need any specialty tools.
>
>This style of tool seems to work the best for me
> http://www.harborfreight.com/3-4-quarter-inch-forged-ball-joint-separator-99849.html
>
>
>Never had much luck with the "pickle fork" style, especially on
>those fulcrum pins (aka silentblocs).
>
>Randall
>
>
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<html><body><div style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #0000=
00"><div aria-label=3D"Compose body">Oh, I see the car type in the thread t=
itle, duh.</div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body"><br></div><div aria-label=
=3D"Compose body">Harold, </div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body">I'm thinki=
ng that you might be talking about the trunnion. If the trunnion is o=
bviously worn and if you are going to disassemble the front suspension to r=
eplace it, then a total suspension rebuild would be in order. </div><=
div aria-label=3D"Compose body">The trunnion is the most expensive part to =
service correctly. An experience mechanic might be considered for thi=
s work. Studying a proper manual would be a good place to start.</div=
><div aria-label=3D"Compose body">To replace the trunnions, I would do both=
sides, there are bronze bushings in the a-arms that need to be replaced an=
d honed to fit the new trunnions.</div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body">An =
automotive machinist should perform this job.</div><div aria-label=3D"Compo=
se body">The rest of the rebuild is fairly easy.</div><div aria-label=3D"Co=
mpose body">I can guaranty that you would not regret rebuilding the suspens=
ion and steering if it is needed. It will transform the handling of y=
our TR.</div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body"><br></div><div aria-label=3D"=
Compose body">Best of luck,</div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body">Dave H.</=
div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body"><br></div><div aria-label=3D"Compose b=
ody"></div><hr id=3D"zwchr"><div style=3D"color:#000;font-weight:normal;fon=
t-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;=
font-size:12pt;" data-mce-style=3D"color: #000; font-weight: normal; font-s=
tyle: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Helvetica,Arial,sans-seri=
f; font-size: 12pt;"><b>From: </b>"Harold Sawatsky" <hsawatsk@sasktel.ne=
t><br><b>To: </b>"davehogye" <dlhogye@comcast.net><br><b>Cc: </b>"=
Tony Drews" <tony@tonydrews.com>, "TR3driver Randall" <TR3driver@c=
a.rr.com>, "TR list" <triumphs@autox.team.net><br><b>Sent: </b>Fri=
day, January 22, 2016 3:14:02 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [TR] Removing Tie-r=
od 56TR3<br><div><br></div><div>OK. I'll sit down I front of it in the morn=
ing. </div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">And, my terminology could de=
finitely be off. I thought I had a good look but marble not. </div><di=
v id=3D"AppleMailSignature">Good advice </div><div id=3D"AppleMailSign=
ature"><br></div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">Thanks<br><div><br></div>Ha=
rold Sawatsky<div>Remax Crown Real Estate</div><div>306-535-6961</div><div>=
<a href=3D"mailto:hsawatsky@remax.com"; target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"m=
ailto:hsawatsky@remax.com">hsawatsky@remax.com</a></div></div><div><br>On J=
an 22, 2016, at 1:58 PM, davehogye <<a href=3D"mailto:dlhogye@comcast.ne=
t" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:dlhogye@comcast.net";>dlhogye@c=
omcast.net</a>> wrote:<br><div><br></div></div><blockquote><div><div sty=
le=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000" data-mce-style=
=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000;"><div>All good sol=
id advice. </div><div>The fulcrum pin is the inside upper and lower a=
-arm pivots. The upper pin is replaceable, but the lower isn't really=
. Are you sure that you have the parts terminology correct? Wha=
t car is this?</div><div>The upper pin replacement wouldn't necessarily inc=
lude removable of the tie rod end.</div><div><br></div><div>Dave H.</div><d=
iv><br></div><hr id=3D"zwchr"><div style=3D"color:#000;font-weight:normal;f=
ont-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-seri=
f;font-size:12pt;" data-mce-style=3D"color: #000; font-weight: normal; font=
-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Helvetica,Arial,sans-se=
rif; font-size: 12pt;"><b>From: </b>"Tony Drews" <<a href=3D"mailto:tony=
@tonydrews.com" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:tony@tonydrews.co=
m">tony@tonydrews.com</a>><br><b>To: </b>"Randall" <<a href=3D"mailto=
:TR3driver@ca.rr.com" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:TR3driver@c=
a.rr.com">TR3driver@ca.rr.com</a>>, "Harold Sawatsky" <<a href=3D"mai=
lto:hsawatsk@sasktel.net" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:hsawats=
k@sasktel.net">hsawatsk@sasktel.net</a>>, <a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@aut=
ox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.=
net">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Friday, January 22, 2016 1=
0:44:00 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [TR] Removing Tie-rod 56TR3<br><div><br><=
/div>+1 on that style of ball joint separator - seems to be much nicer to <=
br>the ball joint, especially if I'm taking it apart but don't plan to <br>=
replace the ball joint.<br><div><br></div>Tony Drews<br><div><br></div>At 0=
9:41 AM 1/22/2016, Randall wrote:<br><div><br></div>> > First, thanks=
for all the input I received before Xmas. The<br>> > project this we=
ekend is to remove the tie rod as one of the<br>> > fulcrum pins is c=
ompletely destroyed<br>><br>>A very common problem in my experience. =
You might want to consider <br>>upgrading to the Delrin/SS joints =
as sold by ARE & TRF. They<br>>will last much longer.<br>><=
br>> > Also, should we replace any other bushings while we are<br>>=
; > doing this? It does look like most other components are in<br>> &=
gt; good condition.<br>><br>>The inner A-arm bushings are another com=
mon problem, IMO; <br>>particularly the upper ones. For the other =
joints, pry and wiggle against<br>>them looking for any movement. =
In general, if you can see them move <br>>at all in ways they are not su=
pposed to, the joint should be<br>>replaced.<br>><br>>Also look fo=
r any play in the steering box. If you see any, my <br>>suggestion=
is to rebuild it rather than trying to adjust the screw<br>>on the top.=
It's to compensate for manufacturing tolerances, not wear IMO.<br>&g=
t;<br>> > Trying to find some documentation or advice as to the best<=
br>> > way to proceed and do I need any specialty tools.<br>><br>&=
gt;This style of tool seems to work the best for me<br>><a href=3D"http:=
//www.harborfreight.com/3-4-quarter-inch-forged-ball-joint-separator-99849.=
html" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"http://www.harborfreight.com/3-4-q=
uarter-inch-forged-ball-joint-separator-99849.html">http://www.harborfreigh=
t.com/3-4-quarter-inch-forged-ball-joint-separator-99849.html</a><br>><b=
r>>Never had much luck with the "pickle fork" style, especially on <br>&=
gt;those fulcrum pins (aka silentblocs).<br>><br>>Randall<br>><br>=
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