A good chunk of the cost per gallon comes from taxes that don't change,
regardless of fuel cost. Pennsylvania has the highest rate of 51.60 cents per
gallon (cpg), and is followed closely by New York (45.99 cpg), Hawaii (45.10
cpg), and California (42.35 cpg). On the other end of the spectrum, Alaska has
the lowest rate at 12.25 cpg, but New Jersey (14.50 cpg) and South Carolina
(16.75 cpg) arenâ??t far behind. These rates do not include the additional
18.40 cent federal excise tax., So Pennsylvanians pay a 70 cents tax on every
gallon and NYers 64.39 while good ole NJ, which is in between the two states
adds 32.9 cents to every gallon (and we're full-serve, no self-serve here!).
Realize your tax on gas can be as high as 25%! If you have a 20 gallon tank,
you're paying $14.00 in tax every time you fill up in PA! Once a week brings
you to $728 in taxes a year.
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Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2015, 2:00 PM
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   (Alex&Janet Thomson)
   3. Re: value for insurance proposes?
(David Ljung Madison)
   4. Ruminations (Home Consolidated)
   5. Re: Ruminations (Joe Curry)
   6. Re: Ruminations (Bob Labuz)
   7. Re: Ruminations (David Friedlander)
   8. Re: Ruminations (John Macartney)
   9. Re: Ruminations (Dave)
 10. Re: Ruminations (Dave)
 11. Re: Ruminations (Dave)
 12. Re: Ruminations (Randall)
 13. Re: Ruminations (Jeff Scarbrough)
 14. Re: Ruminations (Bob Labuz)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 14:04:35 -0800
From: Sujit Roy <triumphstag@gmail.com>
To: Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Subject: [TR] Replacing Universal joints on a drive shaft
Message-ID:
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I?ve been fortunate enough to source myself a pair of half
shafts from a
Triumph 2000. These apparently fit a Triumph Stag which I
have. The shafts
come with replicable universal joints, unlike the staked
type currently on
my Stag.
I can get two types of joint GUJ102 without zirk / grease
nipple or GUJ107
with zirk / grease nipple. 2 are required per side.Â
The problem with
GUJ107 is once fitted to the car there is no way to get to
the zirk closet
to the hub as it is enclosed by the radius arm. I?m
aware TR6s have a
similar setup.
So should I get 4 no-zirked type and fit once and forget, or
buy the zirked
type and periodically, which means never in my case, re-
grease by removing
the shaft?
Do the zirked type really need pumping with grease once in a
while?
Also, doing a cross reference to other part numbers of the
zirked type ,
prices vary from $11 to $25 Any recommendations on brand I
found the ones
below.
I also found a cross reference to GMB
GUJ107 cross references these following parts
Factory Number
ACDelco     Â
   45U0168
BECK/ARNLEYÂ Â 102-0031
BECK/ARNLEYÂ Â 102-0106
REOÂ Â Â Â 55P1
CARRAROÂ Â Â Â Â Â 107625
JENSEN 94425
Regards, Sujit
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Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 17:20:09 -0500
From: "Alex&Janet Thomson" <aljlthomson@charter.net>
To: "'Sujit Roy'" <triumphstag@gmail.com>,
"'Triumphs'"
   <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] Replacing Universal joints on a drive
shaft
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For what it is worth, the original, ?sealed?, non-greaseable
u-joint crosses on my ?81 Toyota diesel pickup were as
smooth as new when I junked the truck after 140,000 miles
and 10 years of use.
Alex Thomson
From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Sujit Roy
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015 5:05 PM
To: Triumphs
Subject: [TR] Replacing Universal joints on a drive shaft
I?ve been fortunate enough to source myself a pair of half
shafts from a Triumph 2000. These apparently fit a Triumph
Stag which I have. The shafts come with replicable universal
joints, unlike the staked type currently on my Stag.Â
I can get two types of joint GUJ102 without zirk / grease
nipple or GUJ107 with zirk / grease nipple. 2 are required
per side. The problem with GUJ107 is once fitted to
the car there is no way to get to the zirk closet to the hub
as it is enclosed by the radius arm. I?m aware TR6s
have a similar setup.
So should I get 4 no-zirked type and fit once and forget, or
buy the zirked type and periodically, which means never in
my case, re- grease by removing the shaft?
Do the zirked type really need pumping with grease once in a
while?
Also, doing a cross reference to other part numbers of the
zirked type , prices vary from $11 to $25 Any
recommendations on brand I found the ones below.
I also found a cross reference to GMB
GUJ107 cross references these following parts
Factory Number
ACDelco     Â
   45U0168
BECK/ARNLEYÂ Â 102-0031
BECK/ARNLEYÂ Â 102-0106
REOÂ Â Â Â 55P1
CARRAROÂ Â Â Â Â Â 107625
JENSEN 94425
Regards, Sujit
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 14:22:29 -0800
From: David Ljung Madison <team.net@daveola.com>
To: triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] value for insurance proposes?
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JonMac says:
> In my case, my first valuation was based on:
> 1. What I paid for the car - (which was nothing because
it was a wreck) PLUS
> 2. The value of parts I had bought for it supported by
receipts or a referenced Excel spreadsheet that could be
checked
> 3. The known or likely number of hours work I had done
on the car in my ownership up to a maximum of 500 hours.
This was multiplied by a very nominal hourly unskilled
labour rate, PLUs
> 4. The value of any work done to the car by a
professional - i.e. a repaint.
This estimate is going to be a bit on the high-side, which
may be
desirable, but might be difficult to convince an insurance
company of
ipso-facto. For example, if you have a $30k car with
fairly good
paint on it, and you get it repainted for $10k, you probably
*do not*
have a $40k car. And plenty of work done on the car is
to just fight
entropy and replace things that are breaking, that doesn't
really add
to the cars value, just maintains it.
Let's just hope that the number of us who need to face these
issues
is kept to a minimum. :)
Dave
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 22:59:21 -0600
From: Home Consolidated <triumphs@consolidated.net>
To: Listserv Triumph <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Subject: [TR] Ruminations
Message-ID: <CC309723-ED32-4A52-B96D-4F2F0C23C163@consolidated.net>
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I saw $1.60 per gallon gasoline recently which got me to
thinking. Has gas ever been this low?
An inflation calculator.
http://inflation-calculator.com/?gclid=CIyppfb83MkCFQuLaQodnV4AOg
tells me that a buck sixty today is the same as $0.21 in
1962, $0.27 in 1970, $0.57 in 1980, $0.90 in 1990, and $1.18
in 2000. I never remember gas prices that low. I remember
$0.14 for a week or so during a local gas war in the early
sixties and $0.35 was about right in the early 70's, before
the first Arab embargo, but otherwise it seems like prices
were always a lot higher. In 2005 I remember paying
north of $4.00 per on the west coast or $4.88 today. I was
watching an old tv show (1977) and the station sign said
$0.609 or $2.13 today.
We must be doing something right.
Ken Gano
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 23:18:19 -0700
From: "Joe Curry" <spitlist@cox.net>
To: "'Home Consolidated'" <triumphs@consolidated.net>,
"'Listserv
   Triumph'" <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] Ruminations
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I can remember when I was in High School when the local
stations regularly
staged "Gas Wars" and one time it got as low as 5 cents a
gallon. That
would be equivalent to %0 cents per gallon today.
Joe
 _____Â
From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Home
Consolidated
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015 9:59 PM
To: Listserv Triumph
Subject: [TR] Ruminations
I saw $1.60 per gallon gasoline recently which got me to
thinking. Has gas
ever been this low?
An inflation calculator.
http://inflation-calculator.com/?gclid=CIyppfb83MkCFQuLaQodnV4AOg
tells me
that a buck sixty today is the same as $0.21 in 1962, $0.27
in 1970, $0.57
in 1980, $0.90 in 1990, and $1.18 in 2000. I never remember
gas prices that
low. I remember $0.14 for a week or so during a local gas
war in the early
sixties and $0.35 was about right in the early 70's, before
the first Arab
embargo, but otherwise it seems like prices were always a
lot higher. In
2005 I remember paying north of $4.00 per on the west coast
or $4.88 today.
I was watching an old tv show (1977) and the station sign
said $0.609 or
$2.13 today.
We must be doing something right.
Ken Gano
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 09:51:12 -0500
From: Bob Labuz <yellowtr@adelphia.net>
To: Joe Curry <spitlist@cox.net>,
'Listserv Triumph'
   <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] Ruminations
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Joe,
Another way to look at any price today is this way.
Back when our currency was silver based and a quarter was
about 1/5th of
an oz AG, gas was anywhere from 18 to 25c / gallon. Well if
you were
smart and saved all your dimes, quarters, half dollars and
silver
dollars you could go down to your precious metal dealer and
sell them 5
quarters (1.25) for about 13 to 14 dollars today. So a
quarter could get
you about 3$ good for about 1.5 gallons up here in upstate
NY. So if
you look at it that way, gas is cheaper today than it was in
the 60's.
Just goes to show you how much our $ has fallen in 50
years.
Now, I was just in northern CA and drove on US 395 CA, and
US 95 Nevada
and I saw prices in the 4.50 to almost 5$ range. This was in
October.
Well over double what I saw on I 40 when I got into NM and
TX.
Bob
On 12/15/2015 01:18 AM, Joe Curry wrote:
>
> I can remember when I was in High School when the local
stations
> regularly staged ?Gas Wars? and one time it got as low
as 5 cents a
> gallon. That would be equivalent to %0 cents per
gallon today.
>
> Joe
>
>
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>
> *From:*Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net]
*On Behalf Of
> *Home Consolidated
> *Sent:* Monday, December 14, 2015 9:59 PM
> *To:* Listserv Triumph
> *Subject:* [TR] Ruminations
>
> I saw $1.60 per gallon gasoline recently which got me
to thinking.
>Â Has gas ever been this low?
>
> An inflation calculator.
> http://inflation-calculator.com/?gclid=CIyppfb83MkCFQuLaQodnV4AOg
tells me
> that a buck sixty today is the same as $0.21 in 1962,
$0.27 in 1970,
> $0.57 in 1980, $0.90 in 1990, and $1.18 in 2000. I
never remember gas
> prices that low. I remember $0.14 for a week or so
during a local gas
> war in the early sixties and $0.35 was about right in
the early 70's,
> before the first Arab embargo, but otherwise it seems
like prices were
> always a lot higher. In 2005 I remember paying
north of $4.00 per on
> the west coast or $4.88 today. I was watching an old tv
show (1977)
> and the station sign said $0.609 or $2.13 today.
>
> We must be doing something right.
>
> Ken Gano
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>
>
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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 10:20:21 -0500
From: David Friedlander <forzion7@gmail.com>
To: Home Consolidated <triumphs@consolidated.net>
Cc: Listserv Triumph <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] Ruminations
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Ken;
I 'love' that. In the '73 Arab Oil embargo, we were told of
an 'oil
shortage' which forced the price of gas to double and even
triple in a
matter of weeks. Overnight, the Arab sheikdoms became
billionaires. Here we
are, forty years later and, somehow, we have an oil GLUT!
Now how can that
be??
I'd like to asee a history graph showing the price of a
barrel of West
Texas crude vs. the price of a gallon of oil at any given
time? Last time
oil was $38.50/barrel, as it is now, how much was a gallon
of gas? Makes me
think that even if a barrel of oil was FREE, we'd still pay
at least $1.50
gallon, what with all the taxes, fees and whatnot (not to
mention dealing
with the ethanol we didn't ask for).
Dave
On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 11:59 PM, Home Consolidated <
triumphs@consolidated.net>
wrote:
> I saw $1.60 per gallon gasoline recently which got me
to thinking. Has
> gas ever been this low?
>
> An inflation calculator.
> http://inflation-calculator.com/?gclid=CIyppfb83MkCFQuLaQodnV4AOg
tells
> me that a buck sixty today is the same as $0.21 in
1962, $0.27 in 1970,
> $0.57 in 1980, $0.90 in 1990, and $1.18 in 2000. I
never remember gas
> prices that low. I remember $0.14 for a week or so
during a local gas war
> in the early sixties and $0.35 was about right in the
early 70's, before
> the first Arab embargo, but otherwise it seems like
prices were always a
> lot higher. In 2005 I remember paying north of
$4.00 per on the west coast
> or $4.88 today. I was watching an old tv show (1977)
and the station sign
> said $0.609 or $2.13 today.
>
> We must be doing something right.
>
> Ken Gano
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 16:52:54 -0000
From: "John Macartney" <john.macartney@ukpips.org.uk>
To: "'Triumph List'" <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] Ruminations
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On the UK lunchtime news today, we were told that inflation
is now half of one percent over the last year - and everyone
is rejoicing at the price of oil at $38 a barrel. Even more
rejoicing that gas is now cheaper than it was per litre in
2005. Still means a gallon here is rocking out at $6.80 :)
Blessings come with strange complexions...
Jonmac
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 12:00:00 -0500
From: Dave <dave1massey@cs.com>
To: triumphs@consolidated.net,
triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] Ruminations
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Sure, but I think the $1.60 is an outlier. Looking at
the GasBuddy site the average price over the last 10 years
has been more like $2.80. That would be equivalent to
$0.36 in 1962, $0.46 in 1970, $0.97 in 1980, $1.54 in 1990
and $2.03 in 2000. Projections are for crude to stay
low for a while but that may turn out to be a year or
two. Many producers can't make money at the current
rate for crude.
Dave Massey
-----Original Message-----
From: Home Consolidated <triumphs@consolidated.net>
To: Listserv Triumph <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Sent: Mon, Dec 14, 2015 10:59 pm
Subject: [TR] Ruminations
I saw $1.60 per gallon gasoline recently which got me to
thinking. Has gas ever been this low?
An inflation calculator.
http://inflation-calculator.com/?gclid=CIyppfb83MkCFQuLaQodnV4AOg
tells me that a buck sixty today is the same as $0.21 in
1962, $0.27 in 1970, $0.57 in 1980, $0.90 in 1990, and $1.18
in 2000. I never remember gas prices that low. I remember
$0.14 for a week or so during a local gas war in the early
sixties and $0.35 was about right in the early 70's, before
the first Arab embargo, but otherwise it seems like prices
were always a lot higher. In 2005 I remember paying
north of $4.00 per on the west coast or $4.88 today. I was
watching an old tv show (1977) and the station sign said
$0.609 or $2.13 today.
We must be doing something right.
Ken Gano
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 12:02:35 -0500
From: Dave <dave1massey@cs.com>
To: triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] Ruminations
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Yeah, and another way to look at it is back when Microsoft
stock was $21 and hadn't split yet...
No, a more accurate way to look at it is how many hours do
you have to work at McDonald's to fill your tank?
Dave Massey
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Labuz <yellowtr@adelphia.net>
To: Joe Curry <spitlist@cox.net>;
'Listserv Triumph' <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, Dec 15, 2015 9:00 am
Subject: Re: [TR] Ruminations
 Â
Joe,
  Â
   Another way to look at any price today
is this way.
  Â
   Back when our currency was silver based
and a quarter was about   1/5th of an oz
AG, gas was anywhere from 18 to 25c / gallon. WellÂ
  if you were smart and saved all your dimes,
quarters, half dollars   and silver
dollars you could go down to your precious metal
dealer   and sell them 5 quarters (1.25)
for about 13 to 14 dollars today.   So a
quarter could get you about 3$ good for about 1.5 gallons
up   here in upstate NY. So if you
look at it that way, gas is cheaper  Â
today than it was in the 60's.
  Â
   Just goes to show you how much our $
has fallen in 50 years.
  Â
   Now, I was just in northern CA and
drove on US 395 CA, and US 95Â Â Â Nevada and
I saw prices in the 4.50 to almost 5$ range. This wasÂ
  in October. Well over double what I saw on I
40 when I got into NMÂ Â Â and TX.
  Â
   Bob
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 12:08:19 -0500
From: Dave <dave1massey@cs.com>
To: triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] Ruminations
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Even if crude was free there are still expenses relating to
transportation, refining, distribution, retailing,
etc. Those are costs that are not proportional to the
price of crude. Just because the price of crude has
dropped in half (or doubles) don't expect pump prices to
change that dramatically.
Dave Massey
-----Original Message-----
From: David Friedlander <forzion7@gmail.com>
To: Home Consolidated <triumphs@consolidated.net>
Cc: Listserv Triumph <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, Dec 15, 2015 9:56 am
Subject: Re: [TR] Ruminations
Ken;
I 'love' that. In the '73 Arab Oil embargo, we were told of
an 'oil shortage' which forced the price of gas to double
and even triple in a matter of weeks. Overnight, the Arab
sheikdoms became billionaires. Here we are, forty years
later and, somehow, we have an oil GLUT! Now how can that
be??
I'd like to asee a history graph showing the price of a
barrel of West Texas crude vs. the price of a gallon of oil
at any given time? Last time oil was $38.50/barrel, as it is
now, how much was a gallon of gas? Makes me think that even
if a barrel of oil was FREE, we'd still pay at least $1.50
gallon, what with all the taxes, fees and whatnot (not to
mention dealing with the ethanol we didn't ask for).
Dave
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 09:33:22 -0800
From: "Randall" <TR3driver@ca.rr.com>
To: "'David Friedlander'" <forzion7@gmail.com>,
"'Home Consolidated'"
   <triumphs@consolidated.net>
Cc: 'Listserv Triumph' <triumphs@autox.team.net>
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> I 'love' that. In the '73 Arab Oil embargo, we were
told of
> an 'oil shortage' which forced the price of gas to
double and
> even triple in a matter of weeks. Overnight, the Arab
> sheikdoms became billionaires. Here we are, forty years
later
> and, somehow, we have an oil GLUT! Now how can that
be??
Until the 73 oil embargo, there were government controls on
the wholesale price of gasoline. Evidence suggests (to
me) that the 73
shortage was engineered by the oil companies, in order to
break the price controls. Supposedly there were tanker
trucks lined up
for miles outside the tank farms, because the tank farms
were full! As I recall, some industry exec even got
quoted as saying we
could have all the gasoline we wanted, for $2/gallon.
The glut has many causes, but I'd say chief among them is
that the oil companies have learned a LOT more since then on
how to
squeeze more oil out of the ground (steam injection, oil
shale, fracking, etc) plus how to squeeze more gasoline from
a barrel of
crude. High prices no doubt played a part in their
investments in those technologies.
There's also the problem that it takes many years between
going out to hunt for more oil; and actually producing fuel
from that oil.
It's a big, complicated, expensive (and dangerous) business,
especially for off-shore oil. When prices go up,
exploration goes way
up. Then when all those new wells start producing,
there is an over-supply and prices drop. Eventually
the wells get shut down
because they are too expensive to run (when compared to the
glut prices) and the cycle repeats.
Back in the early 80's, I worked for a company that supplied
custom computer navigation systems to the oil industry,
among others.
When oil prices were up, we always got a bunch of orders,
for systems that would be multiple millions of dollars in
today's money.
Peanuts really, when compared to the costs of running an oil
exploration ship. (I was once told that operating
costs for the RV
Shell America were around $10,000 PER HOUR.)Â When oil
prices collapsed in 1986, my company withdrew from that
market (closed the
division), as there were simply no more orders coming in at
all. (Fortunately, they had lots of other work, so I
just changed
projects.)
Don't get too complacent. The oil boom/bust cycle is
not dead and prices WILL go back up. I have no doubt
we'll be paying close to
$5/gallon again. It's only a question of when
http://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/100615/will-oil-prices-go-2017.asp
Randall
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 13:44:10 -0500
From: Jeff Scarbrough <fishplate@gmail.com>
Cc: Listserv Triumph <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] Ruminations
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On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Randall <TR3driver@ca.rr.com>
wrote:
> The glut has many causes, but I'd say chief among them
is that the oil companies have learned a LOT more since then
on how to
> squeeze more oil out of the ground (steam injection,
oil shale, fracking, etc) plus how to squeeze more gasoline
from a barrel of
> crude.
Not to mention overall average gasoline consumption per
mile. I'm not
sure how that number has changed over the years...doubled?
tripled?
Jeff Scarbrough
Corrosion Acres, Ga.
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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 13:58:51 -0500
From: Bob Labuz <yellowtr@adelphia.net>
To: Jeff Scarbrough <fishplate@gmail.com>,
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Jeff,
Not so sure I agree.
I have made over 30MPG on my 2.2 liter TR3 in the
past. 87MM upgrade
but with the stock 4sp transmission.
WIth OD, I am sure many have done better.
I average about 25MPG on all my Triumphs, a 3, 4 and 6 just
driving to
car hops etc. No real long range highway mileage. My wife's
4cyl Camry
just averaged about 35MPG on our trip out West. That is real
good, but
hardly twice my 4CYLs Triumphs. And it is fuel infected etc
with many
computers running the show and a 6 speed transmission. The
only computer
available when I drive a Triumph is in my pocket!
The Camry is heavier I am sure and that engine will last for
many more
miles but mileage has not improved as much as one would
expect. I
suspect some of the problem is alcohol and less bang for the
buck in the
power in todays fuels.
Bob
 On 12/15/2015 01:44 PM, Jeff Scarbrough wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Randall <TR3driver@ca.rr.com>
wrote:
>> The glut has many causes, but I'd say chief among
them is that the oil companies have learned a LOT more since
then on how to
>> squeeze more oil out of the ground (steam
injection, oil shale, fracking, etc) plus how to squeeze
more gasoline from a barrel of
>> crude.
> Not to mention overall average gasoline consumption per
mile. I'm not
> sure how that number has changed over the
years...doubled? tripled?
>
>
> Jeff Scarbrough
> Corrosion Acres, Ga.
>
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