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I don't have all the specs on me at the moment, but from memory, the
"hotter" red coil has a primary resistance of about 1.5 ohm, and the
"colder" coil had a primary resistance of 3 or 3.5 ohm. My understanding
is this is the typical situation where the lesser coil can't develop enough
voltage at high rpm when the charge time is the shortest, thus needing the
increased voltage of the lower resistance coil.
Jason
On Sep 19, 2015 2:35 PM, "Anthony Rhodes" <spamiam@comcast.net> wrote:
> That is can interesting question of why one coil was failing at high RPM
> while the other didn't.
>
> Assuming both are in proper operating condition, then I would expect that
> the one that can't sustain high RPM has a lot more inductance than the one
> that worked ok
>
> As a matter of fact, the "high voltage" coils probably get that extra
> oomph by having higher inductance. The price you pay for high inductance
> is that it takes longer to "charge" the magnetic field of the coil. So,
> there is a steeper drop off of output voltage vs RPM.
>
> Do you have the specs on the two coils? Btw the resistance of the
> secondary windings also has an influence. So does the resistance of the
> primary windings though I am assuming both are 3 ohm.
>
> -Tony
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Sep 19, 2015, at 1:00 PM, triumphs-request@autox.team.net wrote:
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2015 14:26:04 -0400
> > From: Jason Sukey <jsukey@gmail.com>
> > To: auprichard@uprichard.net, triumphs@autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 coil question
> > Message-ID:
> > <CAMmo4o-UUO+VMFaKgUCjZiOEQHs1zfsV6fArUq9C+eKQ8s-Mzw@mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Andrew,
> > Not TR3 related, but I've had to play around with coils on my modified
> > GT6 using the 123 distributor (USB tune model). After a lot of
> fiddling, I
> > found that with the recommended Bosch "blue" coil, it would "go flat" at
> > high rpms when I was accelerating hard. (this is compared to points
> dizzy
> > with a hot coil).
> > I ended up with the Bosch "red" coil (made in Brazil model, I'm told the
> > made in Mexico version is of lesser quality). This solved my problems
> and
> > it once again is happy to pull strong up to 7,000 RPM's.
> >
> > My theory is that the lower voltage "Blue" coil is fine for stock
> > applications, but isn't enough for higher performance use.
> >
> > Jason
>
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<p dir=3D"ltr">I don't have all the specs on me at the moment, but from=
memory, the "hotter" red coil has a primary resistance of about =
1.5 ohm, and the "colder" coil had a primary resistance of 3 or 3=
.5 ohm.=C2=A0 My understanding is this is the typical situation where the l=
esser coil can't develop enough voltage at high rpm when the charge tim=
e is the shortest, thus needing the increased voltage of the lower resistan=
ce coil.<br>
Jason</p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sep 19, 2015 2:35 PM, "Anthony Rhodes&qu=
ot; <<a href=3D"mailto:spamiam@comcast.net";>spamiam@comcast.net</a>> =
wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"m=
argin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">That is can i=
nteresting question of why one coil was failing at high RPM while the other=
didn't.<br>
<br>
Assuming both are in proper operating condition, then I would expect that t=
he one that can't sustain high RPM has a lot more inductance than the o=
ne that worked ok<br>
<br>
As a matter of fact, the "high voltage" coils probably get that e=
xtra oomph by having higher inductance.=C2=A0 The price you pay for high in=
ductance is that it takes longer to "charge" the magnetic field o=
f the coil.=C2=A0 So, there is a steeper drop off of output voltage vs RPM.=
<br>
<br>
Do you have the specs on the two coils?=C2=A0 Btw the resistance of the sec=
ondary windings also has an influence.=C2=A0 So does the resistance of the =
primary windings though I am assuming both are 3 ohm.<br>
<br>
-Tony<br>
<br>
Sent from my iPhone<br>
<br>
> On Sep 19, 2015, at 1:00 PM, <a href=3D"mailto:triumphs-request@autox.=
team.net">triumphs-request@autox.team.net</a> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Message: 1<br>
> Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2015 14:26:04 -0400<br>
> From: Jason Sukey <<a href=3D"mailto:jsukey@gmail.com";>jsukey@gmail=
.com</a>><br>
> To: <a href=3D"mailto:auprichard@uprichard.net";>auprichard@uprichard.n=
et</a>, <a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";>triumphs@autox.team.net<=
/a><br>
> Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 coil question<br>
> Message-ID:<br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 <<a href=3D"mailto:CAMmo4o-UUO%2BVMFaKgUCjZiOEQHs1zfsV=
6fArUq9C%2BeKQ8s-Mzw@mail.gmail.com">CAMmo4o-UUO+VMFaKgUCjZiOEQHs1zfsV6fArU=
q9C+eKQ8s-Mzw@mail.gmail.com</a>><br>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br>
><br>
> Andrew,<br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Not TR3 related, but I've had to play around with coi=
ls on my modified<br>
> GT6 using the 123 distributor (USB tune model).=C2=A0 After a lot of f=
iddling, I<br>
> found that with the recommended Bosch "blue" coil, it would =
"go flat" at<br>
> high rpms when I was accelerating hard.=C2=A0 (this is compared to poi=
nts dizzy<br>
> with a hot coil).<br>
> I ended up with the Bosch "red" coil (made in Brazil model, =
I'm told the<br>
> made in Mexico version is of lesser quality).=C2=A0 This solved my pro=
blems and<br>
> it once again is happy to pull strong up to 7,000 RPM's.<br>
><br>
> My theory is that the lower voltage "Blue" coil is fine for =
stock<br>
> applications, but isn't enough for higher performance use.<br>
><br>
> Jason<br>
</blockquote></div>
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