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Re: [TR] TR3 coil question

To: Andrew Uprichard <auprichard@uprichard.net>, "triumphs@autox.team.net" <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 coil question
From: Frank Fisher <yellowtr3@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2015 21:07:58 +0000 (UTC)
Delivered-to: mharc@autox.team.net
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cant help with the coil problem
but inquiring minds want to know hp and torque
:_)
frank


      From: Andrew Uprichard <auprichard@uprichard.net>
 To: triumphs@autox.team.net=20
 Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 1:41 PM
 Subject: [TR] TR3 coil question
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ll-mouth with a number of upgrades / modifications including oversize pisto=
ns, ported head, lightened flywheel, SU HS6 carbs with long intake manifold=
, and a 1,2,3 distributor. =C2=A0The car runs great, but I seem to be fryin=
g coils, usually after pushing the revs. =C2=A0The first time it happened, =
I called 1,2,3 and they reminded me I had to use a coil with more than 1.0 =
(and ideally more than 1.5) ohms resistance and no external ballast.=C2=A0 =
I tried a regular Lucas coil and all was well until I took the car to a rol=
ling road yesterday and we ran it up to 5500 rpm.=C2=A0 (By the way, the ca=
rburetion was fine=C2=A0 throughout the rev range, so I don=E2=80=99t think=
 this is a fuel issue).=C2=A0 The car performed well on the dyno, but on th=
e way home started to backfire on acceleration, the same symptoms I have ha=
d twice before and have been =E2=80=9Ccured=E2=80=9D by replacing the coil.=
 =C2=A0This time I have ordered a Bosch Blue, 3.5 ohm coil, as recommended =
by 1,2,3. =C2=A0If it happens again, I think I will revert to a standard po=
ints or Pertronix =C2=A0set-up and see how the car runs, but I was wonderin=
g if anyone had had a similar experience or might have any suggestions. =C2=
=A0Andrew Uprichard =C2=A0P.S.=C2=A0 The one thing we did observe at the ro=
lling road was there was too much advance:=C2=A0 around 10 degrees at idle =
and 35 degrees (25 added by the !,2,3 distributor) at 4000 rpm. Although th=
e car wasn=E2=80=99t pinging, it did flatten out around 4500 where one migh=
t have expected more power.=C2=A0 I can=E2=80=99t see how too much advance =
could be a culprit, but I am open to any thoughts. =C2=A0

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b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> triumphs@autox.team.net=
 <br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, Sept=
ember 17, 2015 1:41 PM<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</=
span></b> [TR] TR3 coil question<br> </font> </div> <div class=3D"y_msg_con=
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"yiv4895570876MsoNormal" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442518461053_15434">I recently=
 finished the restoration of a =E2=80=9957 small-mouth with a number of upg=
rades / modifications including oversize pistons, ported head, lightened fl=
ywheel, SU HS6 carbs with long intake manifold, and a 1,2,3 distributor.</d=
iv><div class=3D"yiv4895570876MsoNormal" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442518461053_1=
5435"> &nbsp;</div><div class=3D"yiv4895570876MsoNormal" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1=
_1442518461053_15403">The car runs great, but I seem to be frying coils, us=
ually after pushing the revs.</div><div class=3D"yiv4895570876MsoNormal"> &=
nbsp;</div><div class=3D"yiv4895570876MsoNormal" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442518=
461053_15397">The first time it happened, I called 1,2,3 and they reminded =
me I had to use a coil with more than 1.0 (and ideally more than 1.5) ohms =
resistance and no external ballast.&nbsp; I tried a regular Lucas coil and =
all was well until I took the car to a rolling road yesterday and we ran it=
 up to 5500 rpm.&nbsp; (By the way, the carburetion was fine&nbsp; througho=
ut the rev range, so I don=E2=80=99t think this is a fuel issue).&nbsp; The=
 car performed well on the dyno, but on the way home started to backfire on=
 acceleration, the same symptoms I have had twice before and have been =E2=
=80=9Ccured=E2=80=9D by replacing the coil.</div><div class=3D"yiv489557087=
6MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div><div class=3D"yiv4895570876MsoNormal">This time I =
have ordered a Bosch Blue, 3.5 ohm coil, as recommended by 1,2,3.</div><div=
 class=3D"yiv4895570876MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div><div class=3D"yiv4895570876M=
soNormal">If it happens again, I think I will revert to a standard points o=
r Pertronix &nbsp;set-up and see how the car runs, but I was wondering if a=
nyone had had a similar experience or might have any suggestions.</div><div=
 class=3D"yiv4895570876MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div><div class=3D"yiv4895570876M=
soNormal">Andrew Uprichard</div><div class=3D"yiv4895570876MsoNormal"> &nbs=
p;</div><div class=3D"yiv4895570876MsoNormal">P.S.&nbsp; The one thing we d=
id observe at the rolling road was there was too much advance:&nbsp; around=
 10 degrees at idle and 35 degrees (25 added by the !,2,3 distributor) at 4=
000 rpm. Although the car wasn=E2=80=99t pinging, it did flatten out around=
 4500 where one might have expected more power.&nbsp; I can=E2=80=99t see h=
ow too much advance could be a culprit, but I am open to any thoughts.</div=
><div class=3D"yiv4895570876MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div></div></div></div><br><=
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