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To: Johnmowog@aol.com
Subject: Re: ac
From: "Michael D. Porter" <mporter@zianet.com>
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 18:09:22 -0600
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Johnmowog@aol.com wrote:

> Re: the R134 discussion... 
> 
> Having had a couple of cars including an XJ6 converted I can offer the 
> following .02 worth... Yes, a good flush out and change of fittings is a 
>start, but 
> for longevity sake changing hoses  is recommended as they are permeable 
>enough 
> that R12 and oil residue wll stay in the system forever. (Also, hose leaks 
> are the 90th+ percentile cause of AC failure anyway!) A new evaporator is 
>useful 
> as well, R134 models tend towards larger than original to try to overcome the 
> lack of efficiancy. An upgrade in the size of the accumulator valve which 
> controls flow (I'm no expert but I think that's what the guy said it did...) 
>made 
> a very noticable difference. None of these parts were expensive, a couple 
> hundred bucks and a couple hours labor and he was done.

Not accumulator valve, but expansion valve. If the system is equipped with one, 
a larger flow is recommended (note that 
some older systems--GM, for example--used a graded orifice tube, rather than a 
valve).

I'm glad someone finally mentioned hoses--this is one of the items which ought 
to be changed in any conversion to 
minimize leakage, if there is any suggestion that the R-12 hoses aren't up to 
it. The molecular size of R-134a is 
smaller, and will therefore pass right through some hoses that worked just fine 
with R-12 or R-22. Any hose which uses a 
Teflon liner will leak (we used braided stainless/teflon liner hoses to plumb 
the A/C on buses first specified for 
R-134a, just as we always did with R-22, and the first ones off the line leaked 
out eighteen pounds of R-134a in two days).

Cheers.

-- 
Michael D. Porter
Roswell, NM
[mailto:mporter@zianet.com]

Never let anyone drive you crazy when you know it's within walking distance.

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