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Re: The long road back TR3 marking on engine

To: "Rob @ Maggie Robertson" <robandmaggier@home.com>
Subject: Re: The long road back TR3 marking on engine
From: Joe Curry <spitlist@gte.net>
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 23:59:02 -0700
Cc: Dave Brackin <dbrackin@charter.net>, suhring <suhring@lancnews.infi.net>, Drew Rogge <drew@pixar.com>, triumphs@autox.team.net
References: <LOBBJBMHMJKLJOPDNGFDEEAIDFAA.dbrackin@charter.net> <000501c04622$2ead0fe0$e11d0041@bllvu1.wa.home.com>
I wonder if Ferguson Tractor engines have "Tractor" painted on the sides!!!

Maybe that was Standard Triumph's way of ensuring that they didn't get mixed 
up! :)

Joe

"Rob @ Maggie Robertson" wrote:
> 
> Mine has TR with the 3 written under it on the manifold side of the block,
> in a kind of reddish paint. It almost looks as though someone wrote it with
> their finger, the paint being heavier along the edges of the stroke. Mine is
> TS 25054 and the engine # is TS25441E. That's original according to the
> build certificate. I didn't repaint the block since it didn't look that bad
> and because I presumed the marking was slapped on by some bloke at the
> engine assembly plant. Thought it was kind of quaint or something. Jon Mac,
> you know any body with a fat reddish kind of looking finger over there?
> Rob in Seattle
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave Brackin" <dbrackin@charter.net>
> To: "suhring" <suhring@lancnews.infi.net>; "Drew Rogge" <drew@pixar.com>
> Cc: <triumphs@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Friday, November 03, 2000 7:16 AM
> Subject: RE: The long road back
> 
> >
> > Hi Drew,
> > My '57 TR3 engine has the same hand painted markings on the left side of
> the
> > block.  Red paint was used on this one.
> > Dave
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-triumphs@autox.team.net
> > [mailto:owner-triumphs@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of suhring
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 9:47 PM
> > To: Drew Rogge
> > Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: The long road back
> >
> >
> >
> > Drew:
> >
> > I have my '59 TR3A engine on a stand awaiting my attention while
> > I am working on the frame. My engine has the original TR3 painted
> > on the right side. I have taken a number of pictures to get a good
> > record of the paint brush strokes and the color and plan on painting
> > it back on after I paint the block.
> >
> > Scott Suhring
> > Elizabethtown, PA
> > '70 TR6
> > '59 TR3
> >
> > Drew Rogge wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi everyone,
> > >
> > > A while ago I was headed for the hardware store in my TR3 and the
> > > engine started missing and finaly quit all together. To make a long
> > > story short, what happened was that the pivot pin came out of the
> > > aftermarket fuel pump and allowed the lever to jam the cam. After
> > > taking the valve cover off I found that the rear stud for the rocker
> > > arm assembly had broken. This is probably what caused the car to
> > > quit running. The only thing I could think of that would cause this
> > > was that the cam had been broken (always assume the worst) causing
> > > the valve timing for the #4 cylinder to go out and allowing the piston
> > > to bash into the valves. So I proceeded to pull the head to check the
> > > piston and valve. Although the valve and piston looked ok there was
> > > a pretty heavy ridge at the top of all the cylinders. I knew the engine
> > > had lots of blow-by and pretty tired. This plus knowing something
> happened
> > > to the cam caused me to decide to pull the engine and rebuild it.
> > > Once I got around to pulling the cam out I was supprised and pleased
> > > that it came out in one piece. I guess that what really happened when
> > > the cam was jammed was that it caused the timing chain to skip one
> > > or more teeth.
> > >
> > > So anyway the engine is all a part and kind of spread around the garage
> > > now and I'm afraid I'm going to be asking all sorts of silly questions
> > > for a while. I guess I might as well start now.
> > >
> > > When I pulled the cylinders out the water jacket had all kinds of rust
> > > in it, particularly towards the rear of the block. I'm going to take
> > > the block and head somewhere to get them cleaned out and was wondering
> > > if this will remove the rust build up? I'm also concerned about the
> > > aluminum plugs in the head and oil gallery. Does the cleaning solution
> > > used to clean things up eat aluminum?
> > >
> > > I'm not sure but it looks like there may be a crack in the web that runs
> > > across the block between the number two and three cylinders. It looks to
> > > start at the top of the web and runs to the rectangular hole. Is this
> > > common and is it significant? I'm not sure that it's really a crack. It
> > > may be the imprint of a crack in the pattern used to make the mold for
> > > the block (wishfull thinking).
> > >
> > > One interesting thing I noticed when cleaning up the block is that it
> > > has the letters:
> > >
> > >         T R
> > >          3
> > >
> > > painted on the side in orange paint. I had read in Piggot's book that
> > > at least some of the engines were marked this way. Anyone else have this
> > > on their engine?
> > >
> > > Like I said this is probably the start of many questions. I've tried
> > > to save previous messages which I figured I'd need some day but I'm
> > > sure I don't have everything covered.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Drew
> > >
> > > --
> > > Drew Rogge
> > > drew@pixar.com

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