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Re: TR 256

To: Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: TR 256
From: "Power British Performance Parts, Inc." <britcars@powerbritish.com>
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 13:21:42 -0500
References: <21D9C3425D30D111BDFF00805FCC66F357F6CB@DALHOT10>
Hutmacher, Greg wrote:

> That's correct.  The inner fenders, valance, etc are different and must be
> changed.  By the way, just out of curiosity,  what was the difference, if
> any, between the TR4A and TR250 front sheetmetal?
>
>         ----------
>         From:  Brad Kahler [SMTP:brad.kahler@141.com]
>         Sent:  Thursday, February 04, 1999 10:43 AM
>         To:  ghutmacher@stanleyworks.com
>         Cc:  triumphs@autox.team.net
>         Subject:  RE: TR 256
>
>         Greg,
>
>         The only difference between the TR250 and the TR4/4A was in the
> frame
>         mounting for the 6 cylinder engine.  Other than that the body panels
> are all
>         the same.
>
>         So that should clear up the 6 cylinder clearance issue.  If I'm not
> mistaken
>         he will have to change the entire front clip and not just the
> fenders.
>
>         >
>         > Just off the top of my head, I would think it would be a
> straightforward
>         > swap.  The TR250, first off, already had the TR6 engine, so
> clearance
>         > shouldn't be an issue.  I would not use TR4 panels just in case
> there may
>         > have been a slight change in sheetmetal between the TR4 and the
> 250 to
>         > accommodate the 6 cylinder engine.  My understanding from reading
> my
>         > TR250/6 history is that Karmann was required to use the existing
> TR250
>         > inner body tub and chassis when he designed the TR6.  The only
> changes to
>         > sheetmetal he was allowed was the front clip and rear clip.
> Therefore, I
>         > would guess that the TR250 front clip would attach perfectly to
> the TR6
>         > tub and frame. Anybody know anything different?  That car would
> certainly
>         > be an attention getter at Triumph meets.  Whatever else you can
> say about
>         > it, it would be unique.  :-)
>         >
>         >  ----------
>         >  From:  Bud_Rolofson@nps.gov [SMTP:Bud_Rolofson@nps.gov]
>         >  Sent:  Thursday, February 04, 1999 8:28 AM
>         >  To:  triumphs@autox.team.net
>         >  Subject:  TR 256
>         >
>         >
>         >  I'd like to know if anyone out there has done something like
> this.
>         >
>         >  I've been thinking about putting the front clip from a TR4/250
> onto
>         > a TR6 frame.
>         >   It would be a TR6 from the firewall back and a TR4/250 from the
>         > doors and
>         >  firewall forward.  Anyone ever seen this done or have any ideas
> on
>         > what
>         >  modifications would be needed or considerations that I should
> look
>         > at?  What
>         >  measurements should I make to take into account things like, the
>         > TR4/250 bonnet
>         >  has a curve to it versus the flatter TR6 bonnet, and might not
> fit
>         > over the long
>         >  6 cylinder engine?  (Would a small V8 be a better fit for the
>         > TR4/250 bonnet?)
>         >
>         >   Comments? Suggestions (sorry, my wife has already claimed the
> "have your
>         > head
>         >  examined" suggestion)? Ideas? Experiences?
>         >
>         >  My apologies to any that might be offended by my lack of purism,
> but I
>         > really
>         >  like the looks of the front of the TR4/250 and the rear of the
> TR6
>         > and I figure
>         >  I'd be salvaging two TRs at once.
>         >
>         >  Thanks in advance
>         >  Bud 71TR6 CC57365
>         >         71TR6 CC65446 (into a TR256 ?)
>
>         Brad  (Lincoln Nebraska 402-464-1502)
>         My Web Site Http://www.141.com/triumphs (updated 12/3/98)
>
>         1964 Spitfire4 BFC25720L -- 1973 Spitfire 1500 FM3353U
>         1962 TR4 CT288L          -- 1965 TR4 CT38888LO parts car?
>         1959 TR3A TS41311L       -- 1959 TR3A TS53523L parts car
>         1951 Dodge Truck B-3-B-108

Best bet would be to use a 250 from the firewall forward.  Firewall on 250 has 
all the
necessary holes for the brake booster etc.,  4's and 4A's had the pedals on top 
of the
"shelf" with no booster.  If all that is available is from 4 or 4A, then leave 
the
TR-6 firewall and wheel arches (they're different too) and swap the inner and 
outer
fender panels, front valence, and bonnet.  If using a 4 or 4A valence, an 
additional
hole must be added to insure proper air flow into the engine compartment as was 
done
on the 250.


Regards,

Brian Schlorff    '61 TR-4     '64 TR-4     '72 TR-6     '79 Spit
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