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Re: TR3 Haynes Manual?

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Subject: Re: TR3 Haynes Manual?
From: "Andy" <adixon@loudoun.com>
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 12:59:44 -0500
Cc: "Justin Wagner" <jmwagner@greenheart.com>
I just called the Library of Congress, Copyright division.
On pre 1978 books the copyright is good for 75 years.
On books since 1978 the copyright is good for the life of the author plus 50 
years.
Andy

On 03/31/98 11:54 PM Gano, Ken said...
>
>Speaking of copyrights.  In looking at my "Service Instruction Manual"
>Publication Part No 502602 ISBN 09 948207 69 8, by Brookland Books, 
Ltd.,  I
>find no copyright information.  No date nor no "bug"  I have also notice
>this to be fairly common in the factory publications, particularly the
>workshop manuals and parts lists.
>
>It's been twenty years since I took one course in intellectual property, and
>I haven't used it since, but it seems pretty basic that for material to be
>copyrighted the owner must claim that right.
>
>I am going to post similar question to the state bar association list to
>confirm, but IMHO this all my be an non-issue as for as the factory
>publications are concerned.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Justin Wagner <jmwagner@greenheart.com>
>To: Musson, Carl <musson@satie.arts.usf.edu>
>Cc: 'Andy' <adixon@loudoun.com>; triumphs@autox.team.net
><triumphs@autox.team.net>
>Date: Tuesday, March 31, 1998 10:14 PM
>Subject: Re: TR3 Haynes Manual?
>
>
>>
>>I learned an interesting little bit of Trivia during my book searches...
>>
>>Apparently, Clymer himself did time in PRISON, for violation of
>>copyright laws.  While in Prison, he became editor of the prison
>>newspaper...   only using his initials as I identification as
>>editor...   And his first name and last intitial when he authored an
>>article within the paper...  funny, huh?
>>
>>Gentlemen... Be careful about offering xerox copies of copyrighted
>>publications in an open forum such as this.
>>
>>A friend of mine, that is an attorney, is looking into some of the laws
>>for me...  as I thought, perhaps, something that was very old, might be
>>open game...
>>
>>But... believe me... something published with a copyright in the '70's,
>>is NOT fair game.   Even though Clymer is out of business.  They left
>>California and I hear it did not continue for long in KS.   ...but
>>remember guys, the copyright is still something that is owned.  It
>>doesn't matter if the company is still viable.
>>
>>Just be careful about public offerings and keep things like this in
>>private exchange amongst friends.
>>
>>--Justin
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Musson, Carl wrote:
>>>
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: Andy [SMTP:adixon@loudoun.com]
>>> > Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 1998 8:38 PM
>>> > To:   triumphs@autox.team.net
>>> > Subject:      Re: TR3 Haynes Manual?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > I have a Clymer's TR2-TR6 & GT6. It's in pretty rough shape and
>>> > probably
>>> > needs to be taken apart (it's in about 3 pieces already) and put in a
>>> > binder. If
>>> > I decide to do that I might be persuaded to make a few copies.
>>> > Andy
>>> >
>>>         [Musson, Carl]  What is the status on copyright for the
>>> Clymer's?  Mine as a c date of 1972.  Copying could create a problem
>>> since I think Clymer Publications is still in business: Clymer
>>> Publications, 9800 Metcalf Ave. Overland Park, KS 66212 and I have 
seen
>>> publication dates on auto related books to about 1994.

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