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Is the side the panhard rod attaches really matter?
I guess that maybe if it is at an angle (like on Tigers) it could help push=
down the side that
tries to lift with engine torque but that's not really its purpose.
Gary
> On 12/01/2022 3:04 PM Clyde Mclaughlin <clydemclaughlin618@gmail.com>=
wrote:
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> The mk11 chassic mount did not really come down enough, but better. I=
fabricated a duplicate to the mk11 and welded it in place on the left side=
frame, I cut the the bracket from the axle and repositioned it on the othe=
r side and playing with the angles and positioning of the frame mount I was=
able to get the rod very close to ideal. I did have to work around the br=
ake line on the right side and also extended the length of the rod slightly=
. I have found that the car now transitions much more evenly on turns in b=
oth directions especially with the power on with LSD. =20
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> On Thu, Dec 1, 2022, 12:08 PM Jim D'Amelio via Tigers <tigers@autox.t=
eam.net mailto:tigers@autox.team.net > wrote:
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> > > Theo,
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> > Thanks for the response. I understand how the difference was w=
ith the MKII and it can't be changed without the MKII parts and some modifi=
cations to make it more level. Just needed to know the orientation of the =
bar.=20
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> > Jim D
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> > Sent from my Galaxy
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> > -------- Original message --------
> > From: Theo Smit <tsmit@shaw.ca mailto:tsmit@shaw.ca >
> > Date: 12/1/22 11:19 AM (GMT-05:00)
> > To: Jim D'Amelio <jimdamelio@verizon.net mailto:jimdamelio@veri=
zon.net >
> > Cc: tigers@autox.team.net mailto:tigers@autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: [Tigers] Panhard Rod Question
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> > The =E2=80=9Cwrong from the factory=E2=80=9D part is that the f=
rame attachment and the axle attachment should have been done on the opposi=
te sides, which you cannot fix just by flipping the bar around. A second an=
d more important issue is that the frame mounting arm should have been exte=
nded to position the panhard bar horizontally at normal ride height. But th=
at requires more structure back there to support the lateral loads or thing=
s will just tear apart over time (as they already do).=20
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> > Cheers,
> > Theo
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> > > > > On Dec 1, 2022, at 9:12 AM, Jim D'Amelio via Tigers <=
tigers@autox.team.net mailto:tigers@autox.team.net > wrote:
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> > > > > It's been so many years since I removed i=
t, so I don't remember. Does the adjuster end of the rod go into the fram=
e bracket or the diff bracket? Does it really matter which end goes where?=
I've read all the different view on the rod being in the wrong position fr=
om the factory, but can't find a picture of a stock bar mounted.
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Is the side the panhard rod attaches really matter?
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I guess that maybe if it is at an angle (like on Tigers) it could help p=
ush down the side that
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tries to lift with engine torque but that's not really its purpose.
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Gary
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The mk11 chassic mount did not really come down enough, but better. I =
fabricated a duplicate to the mk11 and welded it in place on the left side =
frame, I cut the the bracket from the axle and repositioned it on the other=
side and playing with the angles and positioning of the frame mount I was =
able to get the rod very close to ideal. I did have to work around th=
e brake line on the right side and also extended the length of the rod slig=
htly. I have found that the car now transitions much more evenly on t=
urns in both directions especially with the power on with LSD.
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"_blank" href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"noopener">tigers@auto=
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Theo,
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Thanks for the response. I understand how the difference was w=
ith the MKII and it can't be changed without the MKII parts and some modifi=
cations to make it more level. Just needed to know the orientation of=
the bar.
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Jim D
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Sent from my Galaxy
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Date: 12/1/22 11:19 AM (GMT-05:00)
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Subject: Re: [Tigers] Panhard Rod Question
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The =E2=80=9Cwrong from the factory=E2=80=9D part is that the frame =
attachment and the axle attachment should have been done on the opposite si=
des, which you cannot fix just by flipping the bar around. A second and mor=
e important issue is that the frame mounting arm should have been extended =
to position the panhard bar horizontally at normal ride height. But that re=
quires more structure back there to support the lateral loads or things wil=
l just tear apart over time (as they already do).
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Cheers,
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Theo
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It's been so many years since I removed it, so I don't remember.&n=
bsp; Does the adjuster end of the rod go into the frame bracket or th=
e diff bracket? Does it really matter which end goes where? I've read=
all the different view on the rod being in the wrong position from the fac=
tory, but can't find a picture of a stock bar mounted.
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Thanks
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