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Re: [Tigers] Panhard Rod Question

To: "Jim D'Amelio" <jimdamelio@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Panhard Rod Question
From: Clyde Mclaughlin <clydemclaughlin618@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2022 15:04:10 -0500
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The mk11 chassic mount did not really come down enough, but better. I
fabricated a duplicate to the mk11 and welded it in place on the left side
frame, I cut the the bracket from the axle and repositioned it on the other
side and playing with the angles and positioning of the frame mount I was
able to get the rod very close to ideal.  I did have to work around the
brake line on the right side and also extended the length of the rod
slightly.  I have found that the car now transitions much more evenly on
turns in both directions especially with the power on with LSD.

On Thu, Dec 1, 2022, 12:08 PM Jim D'Amelio via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.ne=
t>
wrote:

> Theo,
>
> Thanks for the response.  I understand how the difference was with the
> MKII and it can't be changed without the MKII parts and some modification=
s
> to make it more level.  Just needed to know the orientation of the bar.
>
> Jim D
>
>
>
> Sent from my Galaxy
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Theo Smit <tsmit@shaw.ca>
> Date: 12/1/22 11:19 AM (GMT-05:00)
> To: Jim D'Amelio <jimdamelio@verizon.net>
> Cc: tigers@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Panhard Rod Question
>
> The =E2=80=9Cwrong from the factory=E2=80=9D part is that the frame attac=
hment and the
> axle attachment should have been done on the opposite sides, which you
> cannot fix just by flipping the bar around. A second and more important
> issue is that the frame mounting arm should have been extended to positio=
n
> the panhard bar horizontally at normal ride height. But that requires mor=
e
> structure back there to support the lateral loads or things will just tea=
r
> apart over time (as they already do).
>
> Cheers,
> Theo
>
> On Dec 1, 2022, at 9:12 AM, Jim D'Amelio via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.ne=
t>
> wrote:
>
> =EF=BB=BF
> It's been so many years since I removed it, so I don't remember.   Does
> the adjuster end of the rod go into the frame bracket or the diff bracket=
?
> Does it really matter which end goes where? I've read all the different
> view on the rod being in the wrong position from the factory,  but can't
> find a picture of a stock bar mounted.
>
> Thanks
>
> Jim D
>
>
>
> Sent from my Galaxy
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"auto">The mk11 chassic mount did not really co=
me down enough, but better. I fabricated a duplicate to the mk11 and welded=
 it in place on the left side frame, I cut the the bracket from the axle an=
d repositioned it on the other side and playing with the angles and positio=
ning of the frame mount I was able to get the rod very close to ideal.=C2=
=A0 I did have to work around the brake line on the right side and also ext=
ended the length of the rod slightly.=C2=A0 I have found that the car now t=
ransitions much more evenly on turns in both directions especially with the=
 power on with LSD. =C2=A0</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div d=
ir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Dec 1, 2022, 12:08 PM Jim D&#39;Ame=
lio via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blan=
k">tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail=
_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left=
-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=
=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"auto">Theo,</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"auto">Thanks for the response.=C2=A0 I understand how the difference wa=
s with the MKII and it can&#39;t be changed without the MKII parts and some=
 modifications to make it more level.=C2=A0 Just needed to know the orienta=
tion of the bar.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">J=
im D</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"auto"><br></div><div id=3D"m_6898089465881761310m_1885758681907028189co=
mposer_signature" dir=3D"auto"><div style=3D"font-size:12px;color:rgb(87,87=
,87)" dir=3D"auto">Sent from my Galaxy</div></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></d=
iv><div><br></div><div align=3D"left" dir=3D"auto" style=3D"font-size:100%;=
color:rgb(0,0,0)"><div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: T=
heo Smit &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tsmit@shaw.ca"; rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"=
_blank">tsmit@shaw.ca</a>&gt; </div><div>Date: 12/1/22  11:19 AM  (GMT-05:0=
0) </div><div>To: Jim D&#39;Amelio &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jimdamelio@verizon=
.net" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">jimdamelio@verizon.net</a>&gt; <=
/div><div>Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer" t=
arget=3D"_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a> </div><div>Subject: Re: [Tigers]=
 Panhard Rod Question </div><div><br></div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">The =E2=80=9Cwrong from the factory=E2=80=9D part is that the=
 frame attachment and the axle attachment should have been done on the oppo=
site sides, which you cannot fix just by flipping the bar around. A second =
and more important issue is that the frame mounting arm should have been ex=
tended to position the panhard bar horizontally at normal ride height. But =
that requires more structure back there to support the lateral loads or thi=
ngs will just tear apart over time (as they already do).=C2=A0</div><div di=
r=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Cheers,</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Theo</di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Dec 1, 2022, at 9:12 AM=
, Jim D&#39;Amelio via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; =
rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<b=
r><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=
=BF<div dir=3D"auto">It&#39;s been so many years since I removed it, so I d=
on&#39;t remember.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Does the adjuster end of the rod go into the=
 frame bracket or the diff bracket?=C2=A0 Does it really matter which end g=
oes where? I&#39;ve read all the different view on the rod being in the wro=
ng position from the factory,=C2=A0 but can&#39;t find a picture of a stock=
 bar mounted.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Thanks=C2=
=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Jim D</div><div dir=
=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div=
><div dir=3D"auto" id=3D"m_6898089465881761310m_1885758681907028189composer=
_signature"><div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"font-size:12px;color:rgb(87,87,87)">=
Sent from my Galaxy</div></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div></div></blockquo=
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