Tom
Sunbeam Thunderbolt was the code name for the 1963 Tiger concept.
Sunbeam Tiger was the 1925 race car driven by Major Henry O.D. Seagrave.
This is from Bill Carroll's book - pgs. 19 & 45 - also on pg.41 "the big
bruiser of a man and the biggest mallet I've seen."
I'm sure in many cases Steve Magnante is researching the car he find on the
internet on the spot and we know from experience most of that information is
questionable.
My guess is Steve is trying to find a good way to earn a living.
Ron Fraser
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From: Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Tom Witt via Tigers
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2022 8:59 PM
To: tigers@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Clueless video
I re-watched the whole video again today. There seems 8 things he got wrong to
some degree (in order of appearance):
He addressed the Tiger badging but neglected to mention the distinctive side
trim.
He referred to the steering rack as "below the A-arms." That is a term I have
never heard and he failed to mention the rack was notched into the front/top of
the crossmember.
The firewall hammering issue was AGAIN brought up.
The Alpine/Tiger is not a body on frame car as he stated.
He stated the roll up windows were in the rear.
He stated the rear end was a Dana or Salisbury 45, not the 44 that it is.
He eluded that the BW transmission was a only in the prototypes but the first
50 or so Tigers had them.
The last point I am not familiar with but he states the 1927 (he says
1925) land speed Sunbeam was called the "Thunderbolt." The internet says
Campbell called the car the Bluebird it was also nick named "The Slug".
I found no reference of it being called a Thunderbolt According Mike Taylor's
book in the early 60's the (to be) Tiger was referred to as a Thunderbolt but
as Ford was using the name it was changed to Tiger. Too much to read at the
moment to see what TBON has to say.
I actually met Magnante at the Mopar Spring/Fall Fling. He is a very
personable guy. For whatever reason other than the Barrett Jackson events his
career seems to be in a holding pattern. He seems to be struggling to find his
place in the internet world. Maybe accuracy has something to do with it. The
day before he did a video on Studebaker and got a number of things wrong there
too.
On 3/16/2022 2:53 PM, JAMES ARMSTRONG via Tigers wrote:
> I saw the video Tom Witt pointed out. That guy is beyond clueless; he
> doesnâ??t know what heâ??s talking about. And he comes on that heâ??s a
> expert. There are to be a lawâ?¦ Jim Armstrong
>
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>> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2022 19:06:56 -0400
>> From: "Ron Fraser" <rfraser@bluefrog.com>
>> To: "'James Armstrong'" <rollright@aol.com>
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>> Subject: Re: [Tigers] toll roll belt
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>> Jim
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>> I took a look at the remnants of my original tool kit strap.
>>
>> The witness marks indicate that the buckle was to the rear.
>>
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>> Ron Fraser
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>> From: Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of James
>> Armstrong via Tigers
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2022 12:07 PM
>> To: tigers@autox.team.net
>> Subject: [Tigers] toll roll belt
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>>
>>
>> My trunk restoration is coming to a close
>>
>> I have a question on the placement of the tool roll fixing belt
>>
>>
>> When the toll roll is out, does the belt buckle lay towards the front
>> of the car, or the rear
>>
>> I have pictures that depict both ways.
>>
>>
>>
>> And if a picture is available, I'd really like to see them.
>>
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>> Yours for the sport,
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>> Jim Armstrong
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>> From: Tom Witt <atwittsend@verizon.net>
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>> Not giving a clue here. The obvious is apparent.
>> https://youtu.be/EqJH49jWD9w?t=90 This is cued to a relevant point
>> but I'm sure there are more to be found.
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