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Re: [Tigers] 90 degree oil filter adaptor

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Subject: Re: [Tigers] 90 degree oil filter adaptor
From: Gary <garywinblad@comcast.net>
Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2021 16:43:44 -0700
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References: <60DE5EE1.70703@austin.rr.com> <000001d77009$57628550$06278ff0$@bluefrog.com> <60E0BC52.7020203@austin.rr.com> <000a01d7704f$7b1bdd70$71539850$@bluefrog.com> <60E0E297.5060803@austin.rr.com> <001c01d77061$516dfbe0$f449f3a0$@bluefrog.com>
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I don't have one handy but it probably has TWO different threads.
Gary


On 7/3/2021 4:15 PM, Ron Fraser via Tigers wrote:
> Terry
>       According to a Weatherhead catalog I have:
> 1/4" pipe thread is about 1/2" diameter
> 3/8" pipe thread about 3/4"
> 1/2" pipe thread about 7/8"
>
> It also states that the BSPT is nearly identical to the NPTF except for the
> angle of the threads.
> This is consistent with the unified bolt threads - UNF & UNC for British
> bolts.
>
> I don't have one of these parts on hand to measure.
> Anyone have a picture of this adaptor part or measurements?
>
> Ron Fraser
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Terry Lawell <tlawell@austin.rr.com>
> Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2021 6:20 PM
> To: Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com>
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] 90 degree oil filter adaptor
>
> Ron,
>
>    It is interesting that the part that fits in there is a Parker Hannifin
> part 2-FMK4S which is a BSP 1/4 thread on the engine side and that is quite
> different from a SAE 1/4" - this is closer to a 1/2 " thread.
>
> Terry
>
>
> On 7/3/21, 4:07 PM, Ron Fraser wrote:
>> Terry
>>      Yes, the PH3600 filter fits - you may need to position angle of the
>> filter adaptor a little for best clearance.
>>
>> The engine block was made by Ford at the Cleveland Foundry, therefore
>> the fitting thread should be an SAE standard pipe thread unless
>> someone buggered it up.
>> Best guess 1/4" pipe thread
>>
>> 9151205      adaptor - pipe to block         oil gauge
>> The 9151205 indicates it is a British supplied part not a Ford
>> supplied part.
>>
>> I don't know if there is any info available about this part.
>>
>> My Ford Master Parts Catalog lists C20Z-9B339-A for the USA part -
>> that part would only give you the thread size - it is not the Tiger part.
>>
>> Ron Fraser
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Terry Lawell <tlawell@austin.rr.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2021 3:37 PM
>> To: Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com>
>> Cc: tigers@Autox.Team.Net
>> Subject: Re: [Tigers] 90 degree oil filter adaptor
>>
>> Hi Ron,
>>
>>     It turns out Summit had the right adapter for the kit, the sales
>> person just didn't know it. They have sent the adapter to me and it
>> fits correctly in the block as well as in the kit. The only problem
>> was the oil filter they sent me was incorrect - it hits up against the oil
> pan.
>> Is it the ph3600 that is slimmer and fits that kit?
>>     I also found another problem - the oil line from the oil pressure
>> gauge was cracked and leaking. when I disconnected the oil line
>> fitting, I also took off the fitting that goes into the block. It was
>> very difficult to get off and I am concerned that someone either put a
>> fitting in there with the wrong threads or stripped the threads when
>> they installed it. Do you know what size those threads are? It appears
>> to be a british standard pipe thread. I had to use whitworth wrenches
>> to get both the pressure fitting nut and the fitting to the block off.
>> Any info on these fittings would be much appreciated.
>>
>> Cheers, Terry
>>
>>
>> On 7/3/21, 7:45 AM, Ron Fraser wrote:
>>> Terry
>>>     1st -  I would contact Summit to make sure that oil filter kit did
>>> not come with an adaptor or if it is missing from your kit.
>>> 2nd -  does Summit have the adaptor needed for this kit?
>>>
>>> C20Z 6890-C seems to be the Ford part number for the adaptor - 3/4
>>> x16 thread and 1 1/16 x 12 thread You need to check that this is
>>> correct for your oil filter kit.
>>>
>>> https://www.npdlink.com/search/products?search_terms=fitting%2Boil%2B
>>> f
>>> ilter&
>>> top_parent=200001&year=
>>>
>>> see if 6890-A is the part you need.
>>>
>>> Ron Fraser
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Terry
>>> Lawell via Tigers
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2021 8:34 PM
>>> To: tigers@autox.team.net
>>> Subject: [Tigers] 90 degree oil filter adaptor
>>>
>>> I purchased a 90 degree oil filter adapter from Summit Racing and
>>> when it arrived I realized it did not have the adapter for the block,
>>> though the salesman told me it came with it. Does anyone know where I
>>> can get the adapter? I think it is 1.16" threads to the block and
>>> 13/16" threads to the adapter.
>>>
>>> Cheers, Terry
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