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Jay
As I understand it Moss bought VB. That might be a =
good thing if Moss maintains a Sunbeam inventory and they upgrade =
quality and description of those parts.
I don=E2=80=99t know if Moss just bought the inventory of VB or the =
building too. Since VB was part of LMC Trucks complex anything is =
possible.
=20
Ron Fraser
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From: Jay <jay.laifman@gmail.com>=20
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2021 11:35 AM
To: Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com>
Cc: Stu <sabre2tgr@gmail.com>; Tigers <tigers@Autox.Team.Net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Mk 1A Seat Rebuild - Why always SS
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Ron makes a good point about buying from SS. When I first got my Alpine =
in 1978, I was in high school and on a tighter budget. So cost =
mattered. SS was usually more expensive, and I would get parts from =
other vendors - ignoring the little story in the back of the SS catalog =
showing why their stuff was different. SS really went the extra step to =
get things done right, and so much of what the other places had was =
garbage. I ended up basically throwing out carpet, full rubber kit, and =
tonneau from other suppliers. VB even had the wrong servos for the car. =
I won=E2=80=99t buy from anyone else but SS now. Of course Rick is now =
a good friend.
=20
There was also Curt or Kurt of Classic Sunbeams (I think that was the =
name), on the east coast. I believe he and Rick worked together in =
designing and getting many of the parts made. So I would have equally =
gone to Curt if not for my later friendship with Rick. I don=E2=80=99t =
know if Curt is still out there.
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And now VB no longer exists either. Just as well. I don=E2=80=99t know =
where their inventory went. But I=E2=80=99d still be careful of buying =
any of it.
=20
Best,
Jay
=20
On Apr 2, 2021, at 7:57 AM, Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net =
=20
Stu=20
1st you need to determine which style seat you have and =
compare to the illustrations in the SS catalog . Joe =
Parlanti=E2=80=99s article is excellent for that style seat cover and =
similar covers but there is also a seat cover with a separate center =
section. Once you know which style, you can make an order.
=20
No matter which style seat you have =E2=80=93 always take pictures and =
take really good notes as you disassemble the seats.
Disassembly is the easy part =E2=80=93 its understanding the assembly =
process that takes time and thought to organize.
Some parts may be SIDED so carefully note and mark them.
=20
Check the condition of all the hardware and fasteners =E2=80=93 SS has =
most of them available.
I had to also buy a couple of taps and dies, 1/4=E2=80=9D x 26 BSF and =
5/16=E2=80=9D x 22 BSF, to clear up some threads.
=20
I had bad luck a long time ago with the rubber diaphragms; they ripped =
and fell apart too quickly. I=E2=80=99m not sure where I got those =
diaphragms but the ones I got from SS are doing nicely.
=20
I believe the way to install the rubber diaphragms is to attach diagonal =
corners 1st then attach the rest of the clips. The corners should be =
fairly easy but the rest of them may become more difficult and require =
more effort as you proceed. It has been way too long since I did any =
of this work so work carefully.
=20
Hope this helps
=20
Ron Fraser
=20
From: Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net =
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2021 7:52 PM
Subject: [Tigers] Mk 1A Seat Rebuild
=20
I've seen the Parlanti article on Tigers United, about rebuilding the =
seats, but his seats were earlier than mine and had the straps. My =
seats from my Mk 1A have the rubber diaphragm. Is there any info on =
line about restoring Mk 1A seats? I want to be sure I know what I'm =
getting into before pulling the trigger on an order to SS, or ripping =
mine apart.
=20
Stu
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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Jay<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 As I understand it Moss bought =
VB.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 That might be a good thing if Moss maintains a =
Sunbeam inventory and they upgrade quality and description of those =
parts.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I don=E2=80=99t know if Moss =
just bought the inventory of VB or the building too.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Since =
VB was part of LMC Trucks complex anything is possible.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Ron =
Fraser<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Jay =
<jay.laifman@gmail.com> <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 02, 2021 =
11:35 AM<br><b>To:</b> Ron Fraser =
<rfraser@bluefrog.com><br><b>Cc:</b> Stu =
<sabre2tgr@gmail.com>; Tigers =
<tigers@Autox.Team.Net><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] Mk 1A Seat =
Rebuild - Why always SS<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Ron makes a =
good point about buying from SS. When I first got my Alpine in =
1978, I was in high school and on a tighter budget. So cost =
mattered. SS was usually more expensive, and I would get parts =
from other vendors - ignoring the little story in the back of the SS =
catalog showing why their stuff was different. SS really went the =
extra step to get things done right, and so much of what the other =
places had was garbage. I ended up basically throwing out carpet, =
full rubber kit, and tonneau from other suppliers. VB even had the =
wrong servos for the car. I won=E2=80=99t buy from anyone else but =
SS now. Of course Rick is now a good friend.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>There was also Curt or Kurt of Classic Sunbeams (I =
think that was the name), on the east coast. I believe he and Rick =
worked together in designing and getting many of the parts made. =
So I would have equally gone to Curt if not for my later =
friendship with Rick. I don=E2=80=99t know if Curt is still out =
there.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>And now VB no longer exists either. Just as =
well. I don=E2=80=99t know where their inventory went. But =
I=E2=80=99d still be careful of buying any of =
it.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Best,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Jay<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On Apr =
2, 2021, at 7:57 AM, Ron Fraser via Tigers <<a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@autox.team.net</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Stu<span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> &=
nbsp; 1<sup>st</sup><span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span>you need to determine which =
style seat you have and compare to the illustrations in the SS catalog =
. Joe Parlanti=E2=80=99s article is excellent for that style =
seat cover and similar covers but there is also a seat cover with a =
separate center section. Once you know which style, you can =
make an order.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>No matter which style seat you have =E2=80=93 always =
take pictures and take really good notes as you disassemble the =
seats.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Disassembly is the =
easy part =E2=80=93 its understanding the assembly process that takes =
time and thought to organize.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Some parts may be SIDED so carefully note and mark =
them.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Check the condition of all the hardware and fasteners =
=E2=80=93 SS has most of them available.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>I had to also buy a couple of taps and dies, =
1/4=E2=80=9D x 26 BSF and 5/16=E2=80=9D x 22 BSF, to clear up some =
threads.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I =
had bad luck a long time ago with the rubber diaphragms; they ripped and =
fell apart too quickly. I=E2=80=99m not sure where I got =
those diaphragms but the ones I got from SS are doing =
nicely.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I =
believe the way to install the rubber diaphragms is to attach diagonal =
corners 1<sup>st</sup><span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span>then attach the rest of the =
clips. The corners should be fairly easy but the rest of =
them may become more difficult and require more effort as you =
proceed. It has been way too long since I did any of this =
work so work carefully.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Hope this helps<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Ron Fraser<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b><span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span>Tigers <<a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net";>tigers-bounces@autox.team.n=
et</a>><span class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span><b>On Behalf =
Of<span class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span></b>Stu via =
Tigers<br><b>Sent:</b><span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span>Thursday, April 01, 2021 7:52 =
PM<br><b>To:</b><span class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span>Tiger =
Net <<a =
href=3D"mailto:Tigers@autox.team.net";>Tigers@autox.team.net</a>><br><b=
>Subject:</b><span class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span>[Tigers] =
Mk 1A Seat Rebuild<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>I've seen the =
Parlanti article on Tigers United, about rebuilding the seats, but his =
seats were earlier than mine and had the straps. My seats from my =
Mk 1A have the rubber diaphragm. Is there any info on line =
about restoring Mk 1A seats? I want to be sure I know what I'm =
getting into before pulling the trigger on an order to SS, or ripping =
mine apart.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><=
div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Stu</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p =
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