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Re: [Tigers] Mk 1A Seat Rebuild - Why always SS

To: Jay <jay.laifman@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Mk 1A Seat Rebuild - Why always SS
From: Jeffery Randall via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2021 12:29:28 -0400
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Do them one at a time, no parts mix up that way. The diaphragms are not
difficult to install, use visegrips to pull the hooks into place. The
hardest part can sometimes be getting the screws to come out of the bases,
once you get them, the rest is pretty much self explanatory. Use plenty of
contact cement in the recess and i put a 9 inch wide car battery on it over
night while the glue dries. put a piece of cardboard under said battery so
the pattern on the battery doesn't transfer to the seat.

On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 11:37 AM Jay via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Ron makes a good point about buying from SS.  When I first got my Alpine
> in 1978, I was in high school and on a tighter budget.  So cost mattered.
> SS was usually more expensive, and I would get parts from other vendors -
> ignoring the little story in the back of the SS catalog showing why their
> stuff was different.  SS really went the extra step to get things done
> right, and so much of what the other places had was garbage.  I ended up
> basically throwing out carpet, full rubber kit, and tonneau from other
> suppliers.  VB even had the wrong servos for the car.  I won=E2=80=99t bu=
y from
> anyone else but SS now.  Of course Rick is now a good friend.
>
> There was also Curt or Kurt of Classic Sunbeams (I think that was the
> name), on the east coast.  I believe he and Rick worked together in
> designing and getting many of the parts made.  So I would have equally go=
ne
> to Curt if not for my later friendship with Rick.  I don=E2=80=99t know i=
f Curt is
> still out there.
>
> And now VB no longer exists either.  Just as well.  I don=E2=80=99t know =
where
> their inventory went.  But I=E2=80=99d still be careful of buying any of =
it.
>
> Best,
> Jay
>
> On Apr 2, 2021, at 7:57 AM, Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> Stu
>                 1st you need to determine which style seat you have and
> compare to the illustrations in the SS catalog .   Joe Parlanti=E2=80=99s=
 article
> is excellent for that style seat cover and similar covers but there is al=
so
> a seat cover with a separate center section.   Once you know which style,
> you can make an order.
>
> No matter which style seat you have =E2=80=93 always take pictures and ta=
ke really
> good notes as you disassemble the seats.
> Disassembly is the easy part =E2=80=93 its understanding the assembly pro=
cess that
> takes time and thought to organize.
> Some parts may be SIDED so carefully note and mark them.
>
> Check the condition of all the hardware and fasteners =E2=80=93 SS has mo=
st of
> them available.
> I had to also buy a couple of taps and dies, 1/4=E2=80=9D x 26 BSF and 5/=
16=E2=80=9D x 22
> BSF, to clear up some threads.
>
> I had bad luck a long time ago with the rubber diaphragms; they ripped an=
d
> fell apart too quickly.   I=E2=80=99m not sure where I got those diaphrag=
ms but the
> ones I got from SS are doing nicely.
>
> I believe the way to install the rubber diaphragms is to attach diagonal
> corners 1st then attach the rest of the clips.   The corners should be
> fairly easy but the rest of them may become more difficult and require mo=
re
> effort as you proceed.   It has been way too long since I did any of this
> work so work carefully.
>
> Hope this helps
>
> Ron Fraser
>
> *From:* Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Stu via
> Tigers
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 01, 2021 7:52 PM
> *To:* Tiger Net <Tigers@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* [Tigers] Mk 1A Seat Rebuild
>
> I've seen the Parlanti article on Tigers United, about rebuilding the
> seats, but his seats were earlier than mine and had the straps.  My seats
> from my Mk 1A  have the rubber diaphragm.  Is there any info on line abou=
t
> restoring Mk 1A seats?  I want to be sure I know what I'm getting into
> before pulling the trigger on an order to SS, or ripping mine apart.
>
> Stu
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Do them one at a time, no parts mix up that way. The diaph=
ragms are not difficult to install, use visegrips=C2=A0to pull the hooks in=
to place. The hardest part can sometimes be getting the screws to come out =
of the bases, once you get them, the rest is pretty much self explanatory. =
Use plenty of contact cement in the recess and i put a 9 inch wide car batt=
ery on it over night=C2=A0while the glue dries. put a piece of cardboard un=
der said battery so the pattern on the battery doesn&#39;t transfer to the =
seat.=C2=A0</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"g=
mail_attr">On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 11:37 AM Jay via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:tigers@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><=
blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-l=
eft-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);pa=
dding-left:1ex"><div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-s=
pace">Ron makes a good point about buying from SS.=C2=A0 When I first got m=
y Alpine in 1978, I was in high school and on a tighter budget.=C2=A0 So co=
st mattered.=C2=A0 SS was usually more expensive, and I would get parts fro=
m other vendors - ignoring the little story in the back of the SS catalog s=
howing why their stuff was different.=C2=A0 SS really went the extra step t=
o get things done right, and so much of what the other places had was garba=
ge.=C2=A0 I ended up basically throwing out carpet, full rubber kit, and to=
nneau from other suppliers.=C2=A0 VB even had the wrong servos for the car.=
=C2=A0 I won=E2=80=99t buy from anyone else but SS now.=C2=A0 Of course Ric=
k is now a good friend.<div><br></div><div>There was also Curt or Kurt of C=
lassic Sunbeams (I think that was the name), on the east coast.=C2=A0 I bel=
ieve he and Rick worked together in designing and getting many of the parts=
 made.=C2=A0 So I would have equally gone to Curt if not for my later frien=
dship with Rick.=C2=A0 I don=E2=80=99t know if Curt is still out there.</di=
v><div><br></div><div>And now VB no longer exists either.=C2=A0 Just as wel=
l.=C2=A0 I don=E2=80=99t know where their inventory went.=C2=A0 But I=E2=80=
=99d still be careful of buying any of it.</div><div><br></div><div>Best,</=
div><div>Jay<br><div><br><div>On Apr 2, 2021, at 7:57 AM, Ron Fraser via Ti=
gers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">tigers@=
autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br><div><div style=3D"font-family:Helve=
tica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:=
normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transfor=
m:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><div style=
=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">=
Stu<span>=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></div><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.00=
01pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 1<sup=
>st</sup><span>=C2=A0</span>you need to determine which style seat you have=
 and compare to the illustrations in the SS catalog .=C2=A0=C2=A0 Joe Parla=
nti=E2=80=99s article is excellent for that style seat cover and similar co=
vers but there is also a seat cover with a separate center section.=C2=A0=
=C2=A0 Once you know which style, you can make an order.<u></u><u></u></div=
><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,s=
ans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></div><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;=
font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">No matter which style seat y=
ou have =E2=80=93 always take pictures and take really good notes as you di=
sassemble the seats.<u></u><u></u></div><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001=
pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Disassembly is the easy p=
art =E2=80=93 its understanding the assembly process that takes time and th=
ought to organize.<u></u><u></u></div><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt=
;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Some parts may be SIDED so =
carefully note and mark them.<u></u><u></u></div><div style=3D"margin:0in 0=
in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u>=
</u></div><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:=
Calibri,sans-serif">Check the condition of all the hardware and fasteners =
=E2=80=93 SS has most of them available.<u></u><u></u></div><div style=3D"m=
argin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">I had=
 to also buy a couple of taps and dies, 1/4=E2=80=9D x 26 BSF and 5/16=E2=
=80=9D x 22 BSF, to clear up some threads.<u></u><u></u></div><div style=3D=
"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u>=
</u>=C2=A0<u></u></div><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt=
;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">I had bad luck a long time ago with the ru=
bber diaphragms; they ripped and fell apart too quickly.=C2=A0=C2=A0 I=E2=
=80=99m not sure where I got those diaphragms but the ones I got from SS ar=
e doing nicely.<u></u><u></u></div><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;fo=
nt-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></div><div=
 style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-s=
erif">I believe the way to install the rubber diaphragms is to attach diago=
nal corners 1<sup>st</sup><span>=C2=A0</span>then attach the rest of the cl=
ips.=C2=A0=C2=A0 The corners should be fairly easy but the rest of them may=
 become more difficult and require more effort as you proceed.=C2=A0=C2=A0 =
It has been way too long since I did any of this work so work carefully.<u>=
</u><u></u></div><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-=
family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></div><div style=3D"margin:0=
in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Hope this he=
lps<u></u><u></u></div><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt=
;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></div><div style=3D"ma=
rgin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Ron Fr=
aser<u></u><u></u></div><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11p=
t;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></div><div style=3D"m=
argin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b>Fr=
om:</b><span>=C2=A0</span>Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers-bounces@autox=
.team.net" target=3D"_blank">tigers-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<span>=C2=
=A0</span><b>On Behalf Of<span>=C2=A0</span></b>Stu via Tigers<br><b>Sent:<=
/b><span>=C2=A0</span>Thursday, April 01, 2021 7:52 PM<br><b>To:</b><span>=
=C2=A0</span>Tiger Net &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:Tigers@autox.team.net"; target=
=3D"_blank">Tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b><span>=C2=A0</s=
pan>[Tigers] Mk 1A Seat Rebuild<u></u><u></u></div><div style=3D"margin:0in=
 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<=
u></u></div><div><div><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;=
font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt">I&#39;ve see=
n the Parlanti article on Tigers United, about rebuilding the seats, but hi=
s seats were earlier than mine and had the straps.=C2=A0 My seats from my M=
k 1A=C2=A0 have the rubber diaphragm.=C2=A0 Is there any info on line about=
 restoring Mk 1A seats?=C2=A0 I want to be sure I know what I&#39;m getting=
 into before pulling the trigger on an order to SS, or ripping mine apart.<=
u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;=
font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size:12p=
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 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style=3D"fon=
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