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Mustangs Unlimited $14.
On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 4:11 PM Iron beast via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.ne=
t>
wrote:
> Tony
> Is this what you need?
>
>
> https://www.cjponyparts.com/scott-drake-shifter-rebuild-kit-without-bolts=
-4-speed-1965-1968/p/HW3273/
>
> Paul
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 24, 2019, at 9:47 AM, Tony Lang via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> I have a couple shifters Ive collected thru the years but I am missing a
> spring and steel plug on at least two of the shifters. Does anyone have
> knowledge were and or if I can purchase replacement parts?
> TIA... TonytheTiger
>
> Tony Lang (TtT)
>
>
> On =E2=80=8ETuesday=E2=80=8E, =E2=80=8EApril=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8E23=E2=80=
=8E, =E2=80=8E2019=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8E12=E2=80=8E:=E2=80=8E55=E2=80=8E:=E2=
=80=8E02=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8EPM=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8ECDT, Ron Fraser
> via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>
> Thank you for your update =E2=80=93 still good information.
>
>
>
> The basics with the Ford shifter is that it can be a little weak.
>
> Seems to me when I worked my shifter; I inspected all the parts for
> straightness, rough edges and wear =E2=80=93 repaired as required
>
> Keeping all the working parts parallel is important
>
> If using 2 spring washers for added spring force or adding an extra washe=
r
> or shim keeps everything parallel then do that
>
> I remember stretching the big main spring on the shifter some to increase
> the spring force =E2=80=93 an extra washer or shim there would do the sam=
e
>
> Lube the working parts
>
>
>
> Install shifter and follow the alignment procedure =E2=80=93 I think I we=
nt
> through this procedure twice =E2=80=93 1st time to set everything in plac=
e then
> rowed through the gears a couple of times then the 2nd alignment
> procedure =E2=80=93 I think there was a slight offset which I corrected a=
nd all was
> well
>
>
>
> Some linkage parts are available =E2=80=93 C5ZZ-7285RPK =E2=80=93 the par=
ts that attach
> the shift rod to the shifter levers
>
> I=E2=80=99m thinking the kit you used had more parts.
>
> If there were any instructions =E2=80=93 please share them with everyone.
>
>
>
> The gearshift lever has trunnion set =E2=80=93 2 steel plugs and 2 spring=
s =E2=80=93 I
> stretched these 2 springs
>
>
>
> Ron Fraser
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* phastphill@aol.com <phastphill@aol.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 23, 2019 11:01 AM
> *To:* rfraser@bluefrog.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] top loader 4 speed wide ratio
>
>
>
> did it 5-6 years ago before my stroke so a bit fuzzy....it was a kit
> either from kee or toploader heaven....there are wave type washers i thin=
k
> that give a bit of extra spring....ie to help going from 2 to 3 we shimme=
d
> the linkage with one or two extra...now if i push shifter out of 2 it goe=
s
> right to 3 with basically no help just push it in gear...kit had all new
> bushings,and we made sure every thing was aligned right...i'll see if i c=
an
> find the old box in the garage
>
> it was toploader heaven....seems to be out of business now....sorry
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com>
> To: phastphill <phastphill@aol.com>; Tigers <Tigers@embarqmail.com>
> Cc: tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>; rtscolgan <rtscolgan@yahoo.com>
>
>
> Sent: Mon, Apr 22, 2019 7:23 pm
> Subject: RE: [Tigers] top loader 4 speed wide ratio
>
> Phastphill
>
> I looked through David Kee=E2=80=99s catalog and I do not=
see any
> linkage kits, I only see shifters. May be I missed the parts you speak =
of.
>
>
>
> Do you have a part # for the kit you used?
>
> Is it still listed in the David Kee catalog or do you have to ask for the
> kit you used?
>
> Do you have more description of what you did to the stock shift linkage?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Ron Fraser
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* phastphill@aol.com <phastphill@aol.com>
> *Sent:* Saturday, April 20, 2019 12:20 PM
> *To:* Tigers@embarqmail.com; rfraser@bluefrog.com
> *Cc:* tigers@autox.team.net; rtscolgan@yahoo.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] top loader 4 speed wide ratio
>
>
>
> i rebuilt my linkage with a kit from david kee...and a couple of extra
> shims for a perfect 2-3 shift,people who drive it can't believe it is a
> stock toploader...http://davidkeetoploaders.com/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Will Seay via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
> To: Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com>
> Cc: Tiger Server <tigers@autox.team.net>; Russ and Tammy C. <
> rtscolgan@yahoo.com>
> Sent: Sat, Apr 20, 2019 11:08 am
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] top loader 4 speed wide ratio
>
> Russ,
>
>
>
> Ron is right. I had the same problem when my Tiger was factory new. I
> remember sitting at an intersection and trying to get into 1st gear.
> Finally put it back into reverse and then back out and all was well.
> Follow everybody's advice about linkage alignment, but I think that the
> problem will never completely go away - it's the nature of the beast.
> --
>
> Will - 382001570
> Tigers@embarqmail.com
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 3:02 PM Ron Fraser via Tigers <
> tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> Russ
>
> I believe I=E2=80=99ve been there and sometimes still happ=
ens.
>
> The linkage is stuck in reverse gear position. If you put it back into
> reverse and carefully pull it out of reverse it should be OK. I found
> that worked after getting under the Tiger a couple times to get it in a
> forward gear which is no fun at all.
>
>
>
> I believe this problem is all in the shifter mechanism.
>
>
>
> I=E2=80=99m not exactly sure how I reduced this occurrence, it was 20 yea=
rs ago,
> but here is a go at it.
>
> I believe I took the shifter mechanism out =E2=80=93 cleaned it =E2=80=93=
inspected it -
> lubed it and I stretched the spring a little.
>
> I also replaced the trunnion on the shifter.
>
> Assemble the shifter =E2=80=93 check and adjust the shifter linkage as re=
quired.
>
>
>
> That worked for me =E2=80=93 only once in a great while does the shifter =
hang up
> now.
>
>
>
> Hope this helps with your problem
>
> Ron Fraser
>
>
>
> *From:* Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Russ and
> Tammy C. via Tigers
> *Sent:* Friday, April 19, 2019 12:42 PM
> *To:* tigers@autox.team.net
> *Subject:* [Tigers] top loader 4 speed wide ratio
>
>
>
> After my recent engine rebuild I am having trouble with the tranny
> getting stuck in two gears. Not good. It occurs when trying to go forwa=
rd
> after putting it in reverse It won't go into any forward gear. Did I
> perhaps bend something getting it back into the tunnel on replacing the
> motor? I didn't do anything to the tranny when out of the car. I did
> clean it up and repaint before re-entry. It was suggested that I cleane=
d
> it too good and it needed to be relubed on the rods and levers. That did
> seem to help but it still gets stuck on occasion and I can release it by
> putting it back into reverse. That is the good news. I had to get under
> the car and hit the lever before to pop it out of gear. The levers all
> line up where they should be under the shifter. Fluid level is good. Is
> the fluid correct( valvoline gear oil--high performance 80-90w )? Any
> suggestions would be appreciated. Russ
> rtscolgan@yahoo.com
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Mustangs Unlimited $14.</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote=
"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 4:11 PM Iro=
n beast via Tigers <<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@auto=
x.team.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;=
border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Tony=
<div>Is this what you need?</div><div><br><div><a href=3D"https://www.cjpon=
yparts.com/scott-drake-shifter-rebuild-kit-without-bolts-4-speed-1965-1968/=
p/HW3273/" target=3D"_blank">https://www.cjponyparts.com/scott-drake-shifte=
r-rebuild-kit-without-bolts-4-speed-1965-1968/p/HW3273/</a></div><div><br><=
/div><div>Paul<br><br><div id=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467AppleMailSigna=
ture" dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Apr 24, =
2019, at 9:47 AM, Tony Lang via Tigers <<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.t=
eam.net" target=3D"_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></di=
v><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477=
591535356467ydp2d2eb197yahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family:"Helveti=
ca Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div>I have a coup=
le shifters Ive collected thru the years but I am missing a spring and stee=
l plug on at least two of the shifters. Does anyone have knowledge were and=
or if I can purchase replacement parts?=C2=A0</div><div>TIA... TonytheTige=
r</div><div><br></div><div class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydp2d2eb197=
signature"><div>Tony Lang (TtT)<var id=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydp2d=
2eb197yui-ie-cursor"></var></div></div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div>
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oted" id=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyahoo_quoted_6678972682"=
>
<div style=3D"font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,=
Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(38,40,42)">
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On =E2=80=8ETuesday=E2=80=8E, =E2=80=8EApril=E2=80=8E =
=E2=80=8E23=E2=80=8E, =E2=80=8E2019=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8E12=E2=80=8E:=E2=80=8E=
55=E2=80=8E:=E2=80=8E02=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8EPM=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8ECDT, Ron Fra=
ser via Tigers <<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blan=
k">tigers@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:
</div>
<div><br></div>
<div><br></div>
<div><div id=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5=
858327498"><div><div class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv585=
8327498WordSection1"><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv=
5858327498MsoNormal">Thank you for your update =E2=80=93 still good informa=
tion.</p><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498Ms=
oNormal"> =C2=A0</p><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5=
858327498MsoNormal">The basics with the Ford shifter is that it can be a li=
ttle weak.</p><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327=
498MsoNormal">Seems to me when I worked my shifter; I inspected all the par=
ts for straightness, rough edges and wear =E2=80=93 repaired as required</p=
><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"=
>Keeping all the working parts parallel is important</p><p class=3D"gmail-m=
_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal">If using 2 spring w=
ashers for added spring force or adding an extra washer or shim keeps every=
thing parallel then do that</p><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc=
316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal">I remember stretching the big main spring on=
the shifter some to increase the spring force =E2=80=93 an extra washer or=
shim there would do the same</p><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467yd=
pc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal">Lube the working parts</p><p class=3D"gmai=
l-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"> =C2=A0</p><p cl=
ass=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal">Insta=
ll shifter and follow the alignment procedure =E2=80=93 I think I went thro=
ugh this procedure twice =E2=80=93 1<sup>st</sup> time to set everything in=
place then rowed through the gears a couple of times then the 2<sup>nd</su=
p> alignment procedure =E2=80=93 I think there was a slight offset which I =
corrected and all was well</p><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc3=
16c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"> =C2=A0</p><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535=
356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal">Some linkage parts are available =
=E2=80=93 C5ZZ-7285RPK =E2=80=93 the parts that attach the shift rod to the=
shifter levers</p><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv58=
58327498MsoNormal">I=E2=80=99m thinking the kit you used had more parts.</p=
><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"=
>If there were any instructions =E2=80=93 please share them with everyone.<=
/p><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNorma=
l"> =C2=A0</p><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327=
498MsoNormal">The gearshift lever has trunnion set =E2=80=93 2 steel plugs =
and 2 springs =E2=80=93 I stretched these 2 springs </p><p class=3D"gmail-m=
_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"> =C2=A0</p><p class=
=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal">Ron Fras=
er</p><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNo=
rmal"> =C2=A0</p><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858=
327498MsoNormal"> =C2=A0</p><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316=
c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:phastphill@aol.c=
om" target=3D"_blank">phastphill@aol.com</a> <<a href=3D"mailto:phastphi=
ll@aol.com" target=3D"_blank">phastphill@aol.com</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> T=
uesday, April 23, 2019 11:01 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:rfraser@blu=
efrog.com" target=3D"_blank">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re=
: [Tigers] top loader 4 speed wide ratio</p><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591=
535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"> =C2=A0</p><p class=3D"gmail-m_=
-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bott=
om:12pt"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:b=
lack">did it 5-6 years ago before my stroke so a bit fuzzy....it was a kit =
either from kee or toploader heaven....there are wave type washers i think =
that give a bit of extra spring....ie to help going from 2 to 3 we shimmed =
the linkage with one or two extra...now if i push shifter out of 2 it goes =
right to 3 with basically no help just push it in gear...kit had all new bu=
shings,and we made sure every thing was aligned right...i'll see if i c=
an find the old box in the garage<br><br></span></p><p class=3D"gmail-m_-46=
67477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:=
12pt"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:blac=
k">it was toploader heaven....seems to be out of business now....sorry</spa=
n></p><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNo=
rmal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-famil=
y:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"> =C2=A0</span></p><div><p class=3D"gmail-m_=
-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bott=
om:12pt"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:b=
lack">-----Original Message-----<br>From: Ron Fraser <</span><a href=3D"=
mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com"; rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank"><span style=
=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">rfraser@bluefrog.com</span=
></a><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black=
">><br>To: phastphill <</span><a href=3D"mailto:phastphill@aol.com"; r=
el=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family=
:Arial,sans-serif">phastphill@aol.com</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:10=
pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">>; Tigers <</span><a hre=
f=3D"mailto:Tigers@embarqmail.com"; rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank"><span=
style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Tigers@embarqmail.co=
m</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;colo=
r:black">><br>Cc: tigers <</span><a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.=
net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-=
family:Arial,sans-serif">tigers@autox.team.net</span></a><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">>; rtscolgan <<=
/span><a href=3D"mailto:rtscolgan@yahoo.com"; rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_bl=
ank"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">rtscolgan@=
yahoo.com</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-se=
rif;color:black">></span></p><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydp=
c316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt"><span style=3D=
"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"><br>Sent: Mon, Ap=
r 22, 2019 7:23 pm<br>Subject: RE: [Tigers] top loader 4 speed wide ratio</=
span></p><div id=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498"><=
div><div><div><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327=
498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;co=
lor:black">Phastphill</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"gmail-m_-46674775915=
35356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;fo=
nt-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 I looked through =
David Kee=E2=80=99s catalog and I do not see any linkage kits, I only see s=
hifters.=C2=A0=C2=A0 May be I missed the parts you speak of.</span></p></di=
v><div><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoN=
ormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:bla=
ck">=C2=A0</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydp=
c316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:A=
rial,sans-serif;color:black">Do you have a part # for the kit you used?</sp=
an></p></div><div><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv585=
8327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-seri=
f;color:black">Is it still listed in the David Kee catalog or do you have t=
o ask for the kit you used?</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"gmail-m_-46674=
77591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:1=
0pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">Do you have more description =
of what you did to the stock shift linkage?</span></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span st=
yle=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">=C2=A0</spa=
n></p></div><div><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858=
327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif=
;color:black">Thanks </span></p></div><div><p class=3D"gmail-m_-46674775915=
35356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;fo=
nt-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">Ron Fraser</span></p></div><div><p =
class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">=C2=A0=
</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyi=
v5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-=
serif;color:black">=C2=A0</span></p></div><div id=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535=
356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498yqt73752"><div><p class=3D"gmail-m_-466747759=
1535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10=
pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">From:</span></b><span style=3D=
"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"> </span><a href=
=3D"mailto:phastphill@aol.com"; rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">phastphill@aol.com</span=
></a><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black=
"> <</span><a href=3D"mailto:phastphill@aol.com"; rel=3D"nofollow" target=
=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">pha=
stphill@aol.com</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,s=
ans-serif;color:black">> <br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, April 20, 2019 12:20=
PM<br><b>To:</b> </span><a href=3D"mailto:Tigers@embarqmail.com"; rel=3D"no=
follow" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,s=
ans-serif">Tigers@embarqmail.com</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;fo=
nt-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">; </span><a href=3D"mailto:rfraser@=
bluefrog.com" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"font-size:1=
0pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">rfraser@bluefrog.com</span></a><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"><br><b>Cc:</b=
> </span><a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"nofollow" target=
=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">tig=
ers@autox.team.net</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Aria=
l,sans-serif;color:black">; </span><a href=3D"mailto:rtscolgan@yahoo.com"; r=
el=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family=
:Arial,sans-serif">rtscolgan@yahoo.com</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:1=
0pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tige=
rs] top loader 4 speed wide ratio</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"gmail-m_=
-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-=
size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">=C2=A0</span></p></div>=
<div style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt"><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467y=
dpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt"><span style=
=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">i rebuilt my l=
inkage with a kit from david kee...and a couple of extra shims for a perfec=
t 2-3 shift,people who drive it can't believe it is a stock toploader..=
.</span><a href=3D"http://davidkeetoploaders.com/"; rel=3D"nofollow" target=
=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">htt=
p://davidkeetoploaders.com/</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-fa=
mily:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"></span></p></div><div><div style=3D"marg=
in-bottom:12pt"><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv58583=
27498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;=
color:black">-----Original Message-----<br>From: Will Seay via Tigers <<=
/span><a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_=
blank"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">tigers@a=
utox.team.net</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,san=
s-serif;color:black">><br>To: Ron Fraser <</span><a href=3D"mailto:rf=
raser@bluefrog.com" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"font-=
size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">rfraser@bluefrog.com</span></a><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">><br=
>Cc: Tiger Server <</span><a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; rel=
=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:A=
rial,sans-serif">tigers@autox.team.net</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:1=
0pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">>; Russ and Tammy C. <<=
/span><a href=3D"mailto:rtscolgan@yahoo.com"; rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_bl=
ank"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">rtscolgan@=
yahoo.com</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-se=
rif;color:black">><br>Sent: Sat, Apr 20, 2019 11:08 am<br>Subject: Re: [=
Tigers] top loader 4 speed wide ratio</span></p></div><div id=3D"gmail-m_-4=
667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498"><div><div><div><div><div><p cla=
ss=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">Russ,</sp=
an><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"></span></p></di=
v></div><div><div><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv585=
8327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-seri=
f;color:black">=C2=A0</span><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif;col=
or:black"></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"gmail-m_-46674775915=
35356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;fo=
nt-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">Ron is right.=C2=A0 I had the same =
problem when my Tiger was factory new.=C2=A0 I remember sitting at an inter=
section and trying to get into 1st gear.=C2=A0 Finally put it back into rev=
erse and then back out and all was well.=C2=A0 Follow everybody's advic=
e about linkage alignment, but I think that the problem will never complete=
ly go away - it's the nature of the beast.<br>--=C2=A0</span><span styl=
e=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"></span></p></div><div><div><=
div><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNorm=
al"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"=
>Will - 382001570=C2=A0<br></span><a href=3D"mailto:Tigers@embarqmail.com"; =
rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-famil=
y:Arial,sans-serif">Tigers@embarqmail.com</span></a><span style=3D"font-fam=
ily:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"></span></p></div></div></div></div></div>=
<div><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNor=
mal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black=
">=C2=A0</span><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"></s=
pan></p></div><div><div id=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv585=
8327498yqt39011"><div><div><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c=
3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,=
sans-serif;color:black">On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 3:02 PM Ron Fraser via Tige=
rs <</span><a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"nofollow" tar=
get=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">=
tigers@autox.team.net</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:A=
rial,sans-serif;color:black">> wrote:</span><span style=3D"font-family:A=
rial,sans-serif;color:black"></span></p></div></div><blockquote style=3D"bo=
rder-width:medium medium medium 1pt;border-style:none none none solid;borde=
r-color:currentcolor currentcolor currentcolor rgb(204,204,204);margin:5pt =
0in 5pt 4.8pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt"><div><div><div><div><p class=3D"gmai=
l-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"f=
ont-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">Russ</span><span st=
yle=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"></span></p></div></div><di=
v><div><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoN=
ormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:bla=
ck">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 I believe I=E2=80=99ve been there and sometimes still happe=
ns.</span><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"></span><=
/p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3c=
byiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sa=
ns-serif;color:black">The linkage is stuck in reverse gear position.=C2=A0=
=C2=A0 If you put it back into reverse and carefully pull it out of reverse=
it should be OK.=C2=A0=C2=A0 I found that worked after getting under the T=
iger a couple times to get it in a forward gear which is no fun at all.</sp=
an><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"></span></p></di=
v></div><div><div><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv585=
8327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-seri=
f;color:black">=C2=A0</span><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif;col=
or:black"></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"gmail-m_-46674775915=
35356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;fo=
nt-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">I believe this problem is all in th=
e shifter mechanism.</span><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif;colo=
r:black"></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"gmail-m_-466747759153=
5356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;fon=
t-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">=C2=A0</span><span style=3D"font-fam=
ily:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=
=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span st=
yle=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">I=E2=80=99m=
not exactly sure how I reduced this occurrence, it was 20 years ago, but h=
ere is a go at it.</span><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:=
black"></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"gmail-m_-46674775915353=
56467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-=
family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">I believe I took the shifter mechanism=
out =E2=80=93 cleaned it =E2=80=93 inspected it - lubed it and I stretched=
the spring a little.</span><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif;col=
or:black"></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"gmail-m_-46674775915=
35356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;fo=
nt-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">I also replaced the trunnion on the=
shifter.</span><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"></=
span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc=
316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Ar=
ial,sans-serif;color:black">Assemble the shifter =E2=80=93 check and adjust=
the shifter linkage as required.</span><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sa=
ns-serif;color:black"></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"gmail-m_=
-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-=
size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">=C2=A0</span><span styl=
e=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"></span></p></div></div><div>=
<div><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNor=
mal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black=
">That worked for me =E2=80=93 only once in a great while does the shifter =
hang up now.</span><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"=
></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467y=
dpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family=
:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">=C2=A0</span><span style=3D"font-family:Aria=
l,sans-serif;color:black"></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"gmai=
l-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"f=
ont-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">Hope this helps wit=
h your problem</span><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:blac=
k"></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"gmail-m_-466747759153535646=
7ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-fami=
ly:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">Ron Fraser </span><span style=3D"font-fami=
ly:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=
=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span st=
yle=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">=C2=A0</spa=
n><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"></span></p></div=
></div><div><div style=3D"border-width:1pt medium medium;border-style:solid=
none none;border-color:rgb(225,225,225) currentcolor currentcolor;padding:=
3pt 0in 0in"><div><div><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cby=
iv5858327498MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,s=
ans-serif;color:black">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-f=
amily:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"> Tigers <</span><a href=3D"mailto:ti=
gers-bounces@autox.team.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank"><span style=
=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">tigers-bounces@autox.team.=
net</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;co=
lor:black">> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Russ and Tammy C. via Tigers<br><b>Sent=
:</b> Friday, April 19, 2019 12:42 PM<br><b>To:</b> </span><a href=3D"mailt=
o:tigers@autox.team.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"=
font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">tigers@autox.team.net</span></=
a><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"><=
br><b>Subject:</b> [Tigers] top loader 4 speed wide ratio</span><span style=
=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"></span></p></div></div></div>=
</div><div><div><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv58583=
27498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;=
color:black">=C2=A0</span><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color=
:black"></span></p></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class=3D"gmail-m_-466=
7477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size=
:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">After=C2=A0 my recent engin=
e rebuild=C2=A0 I am having trouble with the tranny getting stuck in two ge=
ars.=C2=A0 Not good.=C2=A0 It occurs when trying to go forward after puttin=
g it in reverse It won't go into any forward gear. Did I perhaps bend s=
omething getting it back into the tunnel on replacing the motor?=C2=A0 I di=
dn't do anything to the tranny=C2=A0 when out of the car.=C2=A0 I did c=
lean it up and repaint before re-entry.=C2=A0 It was suggested that=C2=A0 I=
cleaned it too good and it needed to be relubed on the rods and levers.=C2=
=A0 That did seem to help but it still gets stuck on occasion and I can rel=
ease it by putting it back into reverse.=C2=A0 That is the good news. I had=
to get under the car and hit the lever before to pop it out of gear. =C2=
=A0=C2=A0 The levers all line up where they should be under the shifter.=C2=
=A0 Fluid level is good.=C2=A0 Is the fluid correct( valvoline gear oil--hi=
gh performance 80-90w )?=C2=A0 Any suggestions would be appreciated.=C2=A0 =
Russ =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 </span><a href=3D"mailto:rtscolgan@yahoo.com"; rel=3D"=
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,sans-serif">rtscolgan@yahoo.com</span></a><span style=3D"font-family:Arial=
,sans-serif;color:black"></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><di=
v style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt"><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc=
316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt"><span style=3D"=
font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">__________________=
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