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1. Re: Tiger shifter steel plugs/springs (Iron beast)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2019 16:11:21 -0400
From: Iron beast <ironbeast@comcast.net>
Cc: tigers@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger shifter steel plugs/springs
Tony
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> On Apr 24, 2019, at 9:47 AM, Tony Lang via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>=
wrote:
>
> I have a couple shifters Ive collected thru the years but I am missing a =
spring and steel plug on at least two of the shifters. Does anyone have kno=
wledge were and or if I can purchase replacement parts?
> TIA... TonytheTiger
>
> Tony Lang (TtT)
>
>
> On ?Tuesday?, ?April? ?23?, ?2019? ?12?:?55?:?02? ?PM? ?CDT, Ron Fraser v=
ia Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>
> Thank you for your update ? still good information.
>
>
>
> The basics with the Ford shifter is that it can be a little weak.
>
> Seems to me when I worked my shifter; I inspected all the parts for strai=
ghtness, rough edges and wear ? repaired as required
>
> Keeping all the working parts parallel is important
>
> If using 2 spring washers for added spring force or adding an extra washe=
r or shim keeps everything parallel then do that
>
> I remember stretching the big main spring on the shifter some to increase=
the spring force ? an extra washer or shim there would do the same
>
> Lube the working parts
>
>
>
> Install shifter and follow the alignment procedure ? I think I went throu=
gh this procedure twice ? 1st time to set everything in place then rowed th=
rough the gears a couple of times then the 2nd alignment procedure ? I thin=
k there was a slight offset which I corrected and all was well
>
>
>
> Some linkage parts are available ? C5ZZ-7285RPK ? the parts that attach t=
he shift rod to the shifter levers
>
> I?m thinking the kit you used had more parts.
>
> If there were any instructions ? please share them with everyone.
>
>
>
> The gearshift lever has trunnion set ? 2 steel plugs and 2 springs ? I st=
retched these 2 springs
>
>
>
> Ron Fraser
>
>
>
>
>
> From: phastphill@aol.com <phastphill@aol.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 11:01 AM
> To: rfraser@bluefrog.com
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] top loader 4 speed wide ratio
>
>
>
> did it 5-6 years ago before my stroke so a bit fuzzy....it was a kit eith=
er from kee or toploader heaven....there are wave type washers i think that=
give a bit of extra spring....ie to help going from 2 to 3 we shimmed the =
linkage with one or two extra...now if i push shifter out of 2 it goes righ=
t to 3 with basically no help just push it in gear...kit had all new bushin=
gs,and we made sure every thing was aligned right...i'll see if i can find =
the old box in the garage
>
>
> it was toploader heaven....seems to be out of business now....sorry
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com>
> To: phastphill <phastphill@aol.com>; Tigers <Tigers@embarqmail.com>
> Cc: tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>; rtscolgan <rtscolgan@yahoo.com>
>
>
> Sent: Mon, Apr 22, 2019 7:23 pm
> Subject: RE: [Tigers] top loader 4 speed wide ratio
>
> Phastphill
>
> I looked through David Kee?s catalog and I do not see any=
linkage kits, I only see shifters. May be I missed the parts you speak o=
f.
>
>
>
> Do you have a part # for the kit you used?
>
> Is it still listed in the David Kee catalog or do you have to ask for the=
kit you used?
>
> Do you have more description of what you did to the stock shift linkage?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Ron Fraser
>
>
>
>
>
> From: phastphill@aol.com <phastphill@aol.com>
> Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2019 12:20 PM
> To: Tigers@embarqmail.com; rfraser@bluefrog.com
> Cc: tigers@autox.team.net; rtscolgan@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] top loader 4 speed wide ratio
>
>
>
> i rebuilt my linkage with a kit from david kee...and a couple of extra sh=
ims for a perfect 2-3 shift,people who drive it can't believe it is a stock=
toploader...http://davidkeetoploaders.com/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Will Seay via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
> To: Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com>
> Cc: Tiger Server <tigers@autox.team.net>; Russ and Tammy C. <rtscolgan@ya=
hoo.com>
> Sent: Sat, Apr 20, 2019 11:08 am
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] top loader 4 speed wide ratio
>
> Russ,
>
>
>
> Ron is right. I had the same problem when my Tiger was factory new. I r=
emember sitting at an intersection and trying to get into 1st gear. Finall=
y put it back into reverse and then back out and all was well. Follow ever=
ybody's advice about linkage alignment, but I think that the problem will n=
ever completely go away - it's the nature of the beast.
> --
>
> Will - 382001570
> Tigers@embarqmail.com
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 3:02 PM Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.=
net> wrote:
>
> Russ
>
> I believe I?ve been there and sometimes still happens.
>
> The linkage is stuck in reverse gear position. If you put it back into =
reverse and carefully pull it out of reverse it should be OK. I found tha=
t worked after getting under the Tiger a couple times to get it in a forwar=
d gear which is no fun at all.
>
>
>
> I believe this problem is all in the shifter mechanism.
>
>
>
> I?m not exactly sure how I reduced this occurrence, it was 20 years ago, =
but here is a go at it.
>
> I believe I took the shifter mechanism out ? cleaned it ? inspected it - =
lubed it and I stretched the spring a little.
>
> I also replaced the trunnion on the shifter.
>
> Assemble the shifter ? check and adjust the shifter linkage as required.
>
>
>
> That worked for me ? only once in a great while does the shifter hang up =
now.
>
>
>
> Hope this helps with your problem
>
> Ron Fraser
>
>
>
> From: Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Russ and Tammy =
C. via Tigers
> Sent: Friday, April 19, 2019 12:42 PM
> To: tigers@autox.team.net
> Subject: [Tigers] top loader 4 speed wide ratio
>
>
>
> After my recent engine rebuild I am having trouble with the tranny gett=
ing stuck in two gears. Not good. It occurs when trying to go forward aft=
er putting it in reverse It won't go into any forward gear. Did I perhaps b=
end something getting it back into the tunnel on replacing the motor? I di=
dn't do anything to the tranny when out of the car. I did clean it up and=
repaint before re-entry. It was suggested that I cleaned it too good and=
it needed to be relubed on the rods and levers. That did seem to help but=
it still gets stuck on occasion and I can release it by putting it back in=
to reverse. That is the good news. I had to get under the car and hit the =
lever before to pop it out of gear. The levers all line up where they sh=
ould be under the shifter. Fluid level is good. Is the fluid correct( val=
voline gear oil--high performance 80-90w )? Any suggestions would be appre=
ciated. Russ rtscolgan@yahoo.com
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1. Re: Tiger shifter steel plugs/springs (Iron beast)<br>
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Message: 1<br>
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2019 16:11:21 -0400<br>
From: Iron beast <ironbeast@comcast.net><br>
Cc: tigers@autox.team.net<br>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger shifter steel plugs/springs<br>
<br>
Tony<br>
Is this what you need?<br>
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Sent from my iPhone<br>
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> On Apr 24, 2019, at 9:47 AM, Tony Lang via Tigers <tigers@autox.tea=
m.net> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> I have a couple shifters Ive collected thru the years but I am missing=
a spring and steel plug on at least two of the shifters. Does anyone have =
knowledge were and or if I can purchase replacement parts?
<br>
> TIA... TonytheTiger<br>
> <br>
> Tony Lang (TtT)<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> On ?Tuesday?, ?April? ?23?, ?2019? ?12?:?55?:?02? ?PM? ?CDT, Ron Frase=
r via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Thank you for your update ? still good information.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> The basics with the Ford shifter is that it can be a little weak.<br>
> <br>
> Seems to me when I worked my shifter; I inspected all the parts for st=
raightness, rough edges and wear ? repaired as required<br>
> <br>
> Keeping all the working parts parallel is important<br>
> <br>
> If using 2 spring washers for added spring force or adding an extra wa=
sher or shim keeps everything parallel then do that<br>
> <br>
> I remember stretching the big main spring on the shifter some to incre=
ase the spring force ? an extra washer or shim there would do the same<br>
> <br>
> Lube the working parts<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Install shifter and follow the alignment procedure ? I think I went th=
rough this procedure twice ? 1st time to set everything in place then rowed=
through the gears a couple of times then the 2nd alignment procedure ? I t=
hink there was a slight offset which
I corrected and all was well<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Some linkage parts are available ? C5ZZ-7285RPK ? the parts that attac=
h the shift rod to the shifter levers<br>
> <br>
> I?m thinking the kit you used had more parts.<br>
> <br>
> If there were any instructions ? please share them with everyone.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> The gearshift lever has trunnion set ? 2 steel plugs and 2 springs ? I=
stretched these 2 springs<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Ron Fraser<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> From: phastphill@aol.com <phastphill@aol.com> <br>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 11:01 AM<br>
> To: rfraser@bluefrog.com<br>
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] top loader 4 speed wide ratio<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> did it 5-6 years ago before my stroke so a bit fuzzy....it was a kit e=
ither from kee or toploader heaven....there are wave type washers i think t=
hat give a bit of extra spring....ie to help going from 2 to 3 we shimmed t=
he linkage with one or two extra...now
if i push shifter out of 2 it goes right to 3 with basically no help just =
push it in gear...kit had all new bushings,and we made sure every thing was=
aligned right...i'll see if i can find the old box in the garage<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> it was toploader heaven....seems to be out of business now....sorry<br=
>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com><br>
> To: phastphill <phastphill@aol.com>; Tigers <Tigers@embarqmai=
l.com><br>
> Cc: tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>; rtscolgan <rtscolgan@yaho=
o.com><br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Sent: Mon, Apr 22, 2019 7:23 pm<br>
> Subject: RE: [Tigers] top loader 4 speed wide ratio<br>
> <br>
> Phastphill<br>
> <br>
>  =
; I looked through David Kee?s catalog and I do not=
see any linkage kits, I only see shifters. May be I missed the=
parts you speak of.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Do you have a part # for the kit you used?<br>
> <br>
> Is it still listed in the David Kee catalog or do you have to ask for =
the kit you used?<br>
> <br>
> Do you have more description of what you did to the stock shift linkag=
e?<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Thanks<br>
> <br>
> Ron Fraser<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> From: phastphill@aol.com <phastphill@aol.com> <br>
> Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2019 12:20 PM<br>
> To: Tigers@embarqmail.com; rfraser@bluefrog.com<br>
> Cc: tigers@autox.team.net; rtscolgan@yahoo.com<br>
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] top loader 4 speed wide ratio<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> i rebuilt my linkage with a kit from david kee...and a couple of extra=
shims for a perfect 2-3 shift,people who drive it can't believe it is a st=
ock toploader...http://davidkeetoploaders.com/<br>
> <br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: Will Seay via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net><br>
> To: Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com><br>
> Cc: Tiger Server <tigers@autox.team.net>; Russ and Tammy C. <=
rtscolgan@yahoo.com><br>
> Sent: Sat, Apr 20, 2019 11:08 am<br>
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] top loader 4 speed wide ratio<br>
> <br>
> Russ,<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Ron is right. I had the same problem when my Tiger was factory n=
ew. I remember sitting at an intersection and trying to get into 1st =
gear. Finally put it back into reverse and then back out and all was =
well. Follow everybody's advice about linkage alignment,
but I think that the problem will never completely go away - it's the natu=
re of the beast.<br>
> -- <br>
> <br>
> Will - 382001570 <br>
> Tigers@embarqmail.com<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 3:02 PM Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers@autox=
.team.net> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> Russ<br>
> <br>
>  =
; I believe I?ve been there and sometimes still happens.<=
br>
> <br>
> The linkage is stuck in reverse gear position. If you put =
it back into reverse and carefully pull it out of reverse it should be OK.&=
nbsp; I found that worked after getting under the Tiger a couple time=
s to get it in a forward gear which is no fun at all.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> I believe this problem is all in the shifter mechanism.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> I?m not exactly sure how I reduced this occurrence, it was 20 years ag=
o, but here is a go at it.<br>
> <br>
> I believe I took the shifter mechanism out ? cleaned it ? inspected it=
- lubed it and I stretched the spring a little.<br>
> <br>
> I also replaced the trunnion on the shifter.<br>
> <br>
> Assemble the shifter ? check and adjust the shifter linkage as require=
d.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> That worked for me ? only once in a great while does the shifter hang =
up now.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Hope this helps with your problem<br>
> <br>
> Ron Fraser<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> From: Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Russ a=
nd Tammy C. via Tigers<br>
> Sent: Friday, April 19, 2019 12:42 PM<br>
> To: tigers@autox.team.net<br>
> Subject: [Tigers] top loader 4 speed wide ratio<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> After my recent engine rebuild I am having trouble with th=
e tranny getting stuck in two gears. Not good. It occurs when t=
rying to go forward after putting it in reverse It won't go into any forwar=
d gear. Did I perhaps bend something getting it back into
the tunnel on replacing the motor? I didn't do anything to the trann=
y when out of the car. I did clean it up and repaint before re-=
entry. It was suggested that I cleaned it too good and it neede=
d to be relubed on the rods and levers. That did seem to
help but it still gets stuck on occasion and I can release it by putting i=
t back into reverse. That is the good news. I had to get under the ca=
r and hit the lever before to pop it out of gear. The lev=
ers all line up where they should be under the shifter.
Fluid level is good. Is the fluid correct( valvoline gear oil--high =
performance 80-90w )? Any suggestions would be appreciated. Rus=
s &n=
bsp; rtscolgan@yahoo.com<br>
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