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Thank you all who contributed to my question about MKII values. I have used
the Hagerty Valuation tool many times, but I couple that knowledge with
personal experiences.
I am aware of a Tiger Mk II "for sale" that I'm trying negotiate the
possible sale of. Admittedly I was hoping to do so without opening up the
floodgates of other competition, hence my lack of detail.
He's asking 80 grand for a non driving car, with many critical MKII pieces
that have not yet been confirmed. He may have them but I haven't seen
them. The car does start, but does not drive. It also is packed in a garage
with stuff all around it, obstructing some of its inspection, but its very
clearly a MKII. It is recorded in TBON. No visible rust but may have
some body filler, amount unknown. Communication is poor with the seller and
his expectations are unreasonable. He quotes a 240K sale on a MKII and
is confident his car is worth 70-80 grand. I didn't think it is. I know of
a couple driver quality MKII's that recently sold for less than 100k.
Frustrating situation. He has no inspiration to build the car, only to get
rich off of it. If the deal was right, I could possibly buy the car but I
have no desire to overpay. I think the car is maybe "worth" 45 or 50 but he
would just laugh. I have offered him 30 without confirmation of the grill,
top of grill trim and wheel arches, and he didn't even respond to my offer.
Thank you so much for understanding and thank you for helping with
discussion on values. Just trying to make sure I am representing my case
realistically to the potential seller. My patience for negotiation is
running out. I've been lightly pursuing the car since early 2013.
Thank you all!
Cullen
On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 12:36 PM, Randall Antosiak <randya@pacbell.net>
wrote:
> Hi Cullen -
> As a starting point to determine the value of your car, you can go to the
> Hagerty web site and look it up. This site can give you a ball park number:
> https://www.hagerty.com/apps/valuationtools/1967-Sunbeam-Tiger-Mk_II
>
> Cars in #4 condition are daily drivers, and Hagerty gives the Mk 2 a value
> of $67,500 in this condition.
>
> Since you wrote your car is a basketcase and doesn't drive, it will be
> worth less. However, as long as you have all the rare parts (wheel arch
> trim, rocker trim, grill, eyebrow, tach), then I would guess a rock bottom
> value around $55k -60k.
>
> - Randy
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Cullen McCann via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
> *To:* Tigers Den <tigers@autox.team.net>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 7, 2016 6:30 PM
> *Subject:* [Tigers] Mk2 values
>
> Dear friends. I would like the list opinion on Mark 2 Tiger values these
> days. We have all seen several come and go at auction in restored
> condition. I realize this question is so subjective it's nearly impossible
> to answer.
> At least give me a Range. Assuming the following conditions are true:
> Authentic mk2 tiger.
> No visible rust or collision damage.
> Matching engine, trans and rear end
> Complete car with egg crate grill and wheel arch trim
> Hardtop included.
> Runs but does not drive.
> Complete but needs total restoration. Basketcase.
> Been in same family for 30 years.
> What's the least a person would expect to pay?
> What the most?
> Thanks friends!!
> Cullen
> LROFE
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Thank you all who contributed to my question about=C2=
=A0MKII values.=C2=A0I=C2=A0have used the Hagerty Valuation tool many times=
, but I=C2=A0couple that knowledge with personal experiences. </div><div><b=
r></div><div>I am aware of a Tiger Mk II "for sale" that I'm =
trying negotiate the possible sale of. Admittedly I was hoping to=C2=A0do s=
o=C2=A0without=C2=A0opening up the floodgates of other competition, hence m=
y lack of detail.</div><div><br></div><div>He's asking 80 grand for a n=
on driving car, with many critical MKII pieces that have not yet been confi=
rmed. He may have them but I haven't seen them.=C2=A0The car does start=
, but does not drive.=C2=A0It also is packed in a garage with stuff all aro=
und it, obstructing some=C2=A0of its inspection,=C2=A0but its very clearly =
a MKII.=C2=A0It is=C2=A0recorded in TBON. No=C2=A0visible rust but may have=
some=C2=A0body filler, amount unknown.=C2=A0Communication is poor with the=
seller and his expectations are unreasonable.=C2=A0He quotes a 240K sale o=
n a MKII=C2=A0and is=C2=A0confident his car is worth 70-80 grand. I didn=
9;t think it is. I know of a couple=C2=A0driver quality=C2=A0MKII's tha=
t recently sold for less than 100k. Frustrating situation. He has no inspir=
ation to build the car, only to get rich off of it. If the deal was right, =
I could possibly buy the car but I have no desire to overpay. I think the c=
ar is maybe "worth" 45 or 50 but he would just laugh. I have offe=
red him 30 without confirmation of the=C2=A0grill, top of grill trim and wh=
eel arches, and he didn't even respond to my offer.</div><div><br></div=
><div>Thank you so much for understanding and thank you for helping with di=
scussion on values. Just trying to make sure I am representing my case real=
istically=C2=A0to the potential seller. My patience for=C2=A0negotiation=C2=
=A0is running out. I've been lightly pursuing the car=C2=A0since early =
2013. </div><div><br></div><div>Thank you all!</div><div><br></div><div>Cul=
len</div><div><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"=
gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 12:36 PM, Randall Antosiak <span dir=3D=
"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:randya@pacbell.net"; target=3D"_blank">randya@pa=
cbell.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><di=
v style=3D"color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helve=
tica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div><sp=
an>Hi Cullen -=C2=A0</span></div><div><span>As a starting point to determin=
e the value of your car, you can go to the Hagerty web site and look it up.=
=C2=A0 This site can give you a ball park number:</span></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr"><span><a href=3D"https://www.hagerty.com/apps/valuationtools/1967-Sunbe=
am-Tiger-Mk_II" target=3D"_blank">https://www.hagerty.com/apps/<wbr>valuati=
ontools/1967-Sunbeam-<wbr>Tiger-Mk_II</a><br></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Cars in #4 condition are daily drivers, and Hage=
rty gives the Mk 2 a value of $67,500 in this condition. =C2=A0</div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Since you wrote your car is a basketc=
ase and doesn't drive, it will be worth less.=C2=A0 However, as long as=
you have all the rare parts (wheel arch trim, rocker trim, grill, eyebrow,=
tach), then I would guess a rock bottom value around $55k -60k.</div><div =
dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">- Randy</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></=
div><div><br><br></div><div style=3D"display:block"> <div style=3D"font-fa=
mily:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;=
font-size:16px"> <div style=3D"font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Hel=
vetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px"> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <f=
ont face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"> <hr size=3D"1"> <b><span style=3D"font-weigh=
t:bold">From:</span></b> Cullen McCann via Tigers <<a href=3D"mailto:tig=
ers@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a>><br> <b>=
<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Tigers Den <<a href=3D"m=
ailto:tigers@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a>>=
; <br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, Sept=
ember 7, 2016 6:30 PM<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Subject:</spa=
n></b> [Tigers] Mk2 values<br> </font> </div> <div><div><div class=3D"h5"><=
br><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Dear friends. I would like the list opinion on Mar=
k 2 Tiger values these days. We have all seen several come and go at auctio=
n in restored condition. I realize this question is so subjective it's =
nearly impossible to answer. </div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">At least give me a Range. Assuming the following condition=
s are true:</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Authentic mk2 tiger.=C2=A0<br>
No visible rust or collision damage. <br>
Matching engine, trans and rear end<br>
Complete car with egg crate grill and wheel arch trim<br>
Hardtop included. <br>
Runs but does not drive. <br>
Complete but needs total restoration. Basketcase. <br>
Been in same family for 30 years. </div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">What's the least a person would expect to pay?<br>
What the most?<br></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks friends!!</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Cullen<br>
LROFE</div></div><br></div></div><span>______________________________<wbr>_=
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