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Subject: Re: [Tigers] Seat Belts and Seat Slider
From: Joel Martin via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2015 13:47:00 +0000 (UTC)
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Thanks to all who responded. =C2=A03 point belts are almost complete. =C2=
=A0The wheel well nuts never had anything in them, the car only had lap bel=
ts before, so re-tapping was required - rear wheel well sides done. =C2=A0I=
 am going to get a few (4) small spacers for the behind the seat attachment=
 points so it does not bunch up the carpet at this location. =C2=A0
The belts came with 2 spacers for the wheel well location in order to get t=
hrough the vinyl and padding with a small hole punched\cut at this location=
 to ensure not messing up the vinyl. =C2=A0Looks pretty good.
Progress is slow but am getting all the little things completed while waiti=
ng for the chrome door finishers to come back in order to complete the door=
s as well as getting the top frame complete with center strap attached. =C2=
=A0We ended up with a 2 piece installation here. =C2=A0One from the middle =
bow to back bow and a long piece from the header to the rear bow. =C2=A0We =
are not attaching the header portion until the top is installed to ensure a=
 taught fit. =C2=A0Seats should be back from upholster some time in the nex=
t 2 weeks and then interior would be complete.
Thanks again for the responses, it was a little nerve racking early this we=
ek, not thinking there was no frame belt mounting points. =C2=A0MGB inside =
captive nuts - Sunbeam outside interior compartment captive nuts - who knew=
 - whew!
RegardsJoel Martin=20


     On Thursday, September 17, 2015 2:00 PM, "CoolVT@aol.com" <CoolVT@aol.=
com> wrote:
  =20

  Stu, if you hit something hard enough to flip the passenger seat forward =
I think you're going to have more to worry about than a seat ;-)=C2=A0In a =
message dated 9/17/2015 1:31:55 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, tigers@autox.te=
am.net writes:
  In my Tiger, assembled in the late summer of '66, there were mounts for l=
ap belts under the rugs, and for the shoulder belt on the wheel arch in the=
 rear.=C2=A0 They are threaded to take the standard seat belt bolt, whateve=
r that is, because a couple sets I've obtained from other cars, including a=
 Mercedes, fit right in. =C2=A0=20
 I'm on the short side, and didn't like the angle of the lap belt when usin=
g the standard mounts, so I added a second set of mounts further forward, j=
ust by drilling holes in the floor and using those giant washers intended f=
or seat belt mounting=20
 If you are in the seat and have your belts on, the seat should be unable t=
o tip forward.=C2=A0 The empty passenger seat is another issue...=20
 Stu=20
 On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 8:30 AM, Joel Martin via Tigers <tigers@autox.team=
.net> wrote:
=20
   I must confess, when doing metal and body work, I did not think ahead re=
garding seat belt mounting locations.=C2=A0 I know with 1968 and newer cars=
 you are required to wear a seat belt but I am sure I want them on any car =
I drive.=20
 So, what do people do regarding adding seat belts 'after' welding is out o=
f the question with new paint completed and carpet installed?=C2=A0 My MGB =
has welded in captive nuts for belts and shoulder strap mounting points and=
 I guess I was thinking the Tiger MK 1A had them as well - bad mistake.=C2=
=A0 Options now?=20
 My other concern is with the seat slider where the seats 'raise/tip' forwa=
rd with no way to hold back of seat frame from tipping forward in case of f=
ront end accident.=C2=A0 How have folks addressed this issue or is it a non=
e issue?=20
 Regards=20
 Joel Martin
=20

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<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:ga=
ramond, new york, times, serif;font-size:16px"><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3=
_16_0_1_1442582821264_4661"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442582821264_4660">Th=
anks to all who responded. &nbsp;3 point belts are almost complete. &nbsp;T=
he wheel well nuts never had anything in them, the car only had lap belts b=
efore, so re-tapping was required - rear wheel well sides done. &nbsp;I am =
going to get a few (4) small spacers for the behind the seat attachment poi=
nts so it does not bunch up the carpet at this location. &nbsp;</span></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442582821264_4661"><span><br></span><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442582821264_4661"><span id=3D"yu=
i_3_16_0_1_1442582821264_4665">The belts came with 2 spacers for the wheel =
well location in order to get through the vinyl and padding with a small ho=
le punched\cut at this location to ensure not messing up the vinyl. &nbsp;L=
ooks pretty good.</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_144258282=
1264_4661"><span><br></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_14425=
82821264_4661"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442582821264_4828">Progress is slo=
w but am getting all the little things completed while waiting for the chro=
me door finishers to come back in order to complete the doors as well as ge=
tting the top frame complete with center strap attached. &nbsp;We ended up =
with a 2 piece installation here. &nbsp;One from the middle bow to back bow=
 and a long piece from the header to the rear bow. &nbsp;We are not attachi=
ng the header portion until the top is installed to ensure a taught fit. &n=
bsp;Seats should be back from upholster some time in the next 2 weeks and t=
hen interior would be complete.</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16=
_0_1_1442582821264_4661"><span><br></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_=
3_16_0_1_1442582821264_4661"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442582821264_5127">T=
hanks again for the responses, it was a little nerve racking early this wee=
k, not thinking there was no frame belt mounting points. &nbsp;MGB inside c=
aptive nuts - Sunbeam outside interior compartment captive nuts - who knew =
- whew!</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442582821264_4661"=
><span><br></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442582821264_4=
661"><span>Regards</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_14425828=
21264_4661"><span>Joel Martin</span></div>  <br><div class=3D"qtdSeparateBR=
"><br><br></div><div class=3D"yahoo_quoted" style=3D"display: block;"> <div=
 style=3D"font-family: garamond, new york, times, serif; font-size: 16px;">=
 <div style=3D"font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial=
, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <font siz=
e=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"> On Thursday, September 17, 2015 2:00 PM, "CoolVT@ao=
l.com" &lt;CoolVT@aol.com&gt; wrote:<br> </font> </div>  <br><br> <div clas=
s=3D"y_msg_container"><div id=3D"yiv0125132353">

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=20
<div><font id=3D"yiv0125132353role_document" color=3D"#000000" size=3D"3" f=
ace=3D"Arial">
<div><strong>Stu, if you hit something hard enough to flip the passenger se=
at=20
forward I think you're going to have more to worry about than a seat=20
;-)</strong></div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>
<div>In a message dated 9/17/2015 1:31:55 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,=20
tigers@autox.team.net writes:</div>
<blockquote style=3D"PADDING-LEFT:5px;MARGIN-LEFT:5px;BORDER-LEFT:blue 2px =
solid;"><font style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;" color=3D"#000000" siz=
e=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">
  <div dir=3D"ltr">
  <div class=3D"yiv0125132353gmail_default" style=3D"FONT-SIZE:small;">In m=
y Tiger, assembled in=20
  the late summer of '66, there were mounts for lap belts under the rugs, a=
nd=20
  for the shoulder belt on the wheel arch in the rear.&nbsp; They are threa=
ded=20
  to take the standard seat belt bolt, whatever that is, because a couple s=
ets=20
  I've obtained from other cars, including a Mercedes, fit right in.=20
&nbsp;</div>
  <div class=3D"yiv0125132353gmail_default" style=3D"FONT-SIZE:small;"><br>=
</div>
  <div class=3D"yiv0125132353gmail_default" style=3D"FONT-SIZE:small;">I'm =
on the short side, and=20
  didn't like the angle of the lap belt when using the standard mounts, so =
I=20
  added a second set of mounts further forward, just by drilling holes in t=
he=20
  floor and using those giant washers intended for seat belt mounting</div>
  <div class=3D"yiv0125132353gmail_default" style=3D"FONT-SIZE:small;"><br>=
</div>
  <div class=3D"yiv0125132353gmail_default" style=3D"FONT-SIZE:small;">If y=
ou are in the seat and=20
  have your belts on, the seat should be unable to tip forward.&nbsp; The e=
mpty=20
  passenger seat is another issue...</div>
  <div class=3D"yiv0125132353gmail_default" style=3D"FONT-SIZE:small;"><br>=
</div>
  <div class=3D"yiv0125132353gmail_default" style=3D"FONT-SIZE:small;">Stu<=
/div></div>
  <div class=3D"yiv0125132353gmail_extra"><br>
  <div class=3D"yiv0125132353gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 8:30 AM, =
Joel Martin via Tigers=20
  <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" title=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.te=
am.net" ymailto=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" href=3D"=
mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<b=
r>
  <blockquote class=3D"yiv0125132353gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT:1ex;=
MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;">
    <div>
    <div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:16px;FONT-FAMILY:garamond, new york, times, ser=
if;COLOR:#000;BACKGROUND-COLOR:#fff;">
    <div dir=3D"ltr">I must confess, when doing metal and body work, I did =
not think=20
    ahead regarding seat belt mounting locations.&nbsp; I know with 1968 an=
d=20
    newer cars you are required to wear a seat belt but I am sure I want th=
em on=20
    any car I drive.</div>
    <div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div>
    <div dir=3D"ltr">So, what do people do regarding adding seat belts 'aft=
er'=20
    welding is out of the question with new paint completed and carpet=20
    installed?&nbsp; My MGB has welded in captive nuts for belts and should=
er=20
    strap mounting points and I guess I was thinking the Tiger MK 1A had th=
em as=20
    well - bad mistake.&nbsp; Options now?</div>
    <div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div>
    <div dir=3D"ltr">My other concern is with the seat slider where the sea=
ts=20
    'raise/tip' forward with no way to hold back of seat frame from tipping=
=20
    forward in case of front end accident.&nbsp; How have folks addressed t=
his=20
    issue or is it a none issue?</div>
    <div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div>
    <div dir=3D"ltr">Regards</div><span class=3D"yiv0125132353HOEnZb"><font=
 color=3D"#888888">
    <div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div>
    <div dir=3D"ltr">Joel Martin<br></div>
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