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To: "rfraser@bluefrog.com" <rfraser@bluefrog.com>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Seat Belts and Seat Slider
From: Joel Martin via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2015 13:24:29 +0000 (UTC)
Cc: "tigers@Autox.Team.Net" <tigers@Autox.Team.Net>
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Ok, after the first email from Michael King, I have found all three mountin=
g points per side.=C2=A0 The panic has now subsided.=C2=A0=20

My thought on the shoulder harness mounting point, which goes through the n=
ice new vinyl side cover is to use a spacer through the vinyl as to not cru=
sh it.=C2=A0 Right track?
Regards and thank you.

Joel Martin
=20


     On Thursday, September 17, 2015 9:16 AM, Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.=
com> wrote:
  =20

 MessageJoel=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 My Mk 1A has nuts welded=C2=A0undernea=
th=C2=A0to the floor pan for the seat belts.=C2=A0 The nuts have a short sh=
oulder=C2=A0machined into them so they stick up near=C2=A0flush to the insi=
de floor pan.=C2=A0I believe those seat belt bolt positions were standard.=
=C2=A0 There is also a position for a shoulder harness belt on the rear whe=
el wells - mine were welded over.=C2=A0I see few choices if you welded up t=
hese positions.=C2=A0 You can drill new holes and weld nuts to the floor pa=
n then touch up the paint.Bolt in hardware kit - bolt, large washer, nut - =
no paint touch upEyebolt hardware kit - eyebolt, large washer, nut - no pai=
nt touch up - hook and latch style seat belts required.=C2=A0If your buckle=
d into the seat it=C2=A0 is not going to tip.If your concern is with the em=
pty seat tipping - fasten that seat belt to limit its movement.=C2=A0Ron Fr=
aser
  -----Original Message-----
From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joel Marti=
n via Tigers
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 8:30 AM
To: Tiger List Serve
Subject: [Tigers] Seat Belts and Seat Slider

  I must confess, when doing metal and body work, I did not think ahead reg=
arding seat belt mounting locations.=C2=A0 I know with 1968 and newer cars =
you are required to wear a seat belt but I am sure I want them on any car I=
 drive.=20
 So, what do people do regarding adding seat belts 'after' welding is out o=
f the question with new paint completed and carpet installed?=C2=A0 My MGB =
has welded in captive nuts for belts and shoulder strap mounting points and=
 I guess I was thinking the Tiger MK 1A had them as well - bad mistake.=C2=
=A0 Options now?=20
 My other concern is with the seat slider where the seats 'raise/tip' forwa=
rd with no way to hold back of seat frame from tipping forward in case of f=
ront end accident.=C2=A0 How have folks addressed this issue or is it a non=
e issue?=20
 Regards=20
 Joel Martin
=20



  
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<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:ga=
ramond, new york, times, serif;font-size:16px"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442=
492271710_17399">Ok, after the first email from Michael King, I have found =
all three mounting points per side.&nbsp; The panic has now subsided.&nbsp;=
 <br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442492271710_17400"><br></div><div id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442492271710_17402">My thought on the shoulder harness mo=
unting point, which goes through the nice new vinyl side cover is to use a =
spacer through the vinyl as to not crush it.&nbsp; Right track?</div><div i=
d=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442492271710_17534"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_14=
42492271710_17636">Regards and thank you.<br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_=
1442492271710_17896"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442492271710_17895"=
>Joel Martin<br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442492271710_17401"><span></=
span></div>  <br><div class=3D"qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div style=3D"d=
isplay: block;" class=3D"yahoo_quoted"> <div style=3D"font-family: garamond=
, new york, times, serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div style=3D"font-family: Hel=
veticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; fo=
nt-size: 16px;"> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"> On Thur=
sday, September 17, 2015 9:16 AM, Ron Fraser &lt;rfraser@bluefrog.com&gt; w=
rote:<br> </font> </div>  <br><br> <div class=3D"y_msg_container"><div id=
=3D"yiv7389623530"><title>Message</title><div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2"><span class=3D"yiv73=
89623530593474212-17092015">Joel</span></font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2"><span class=3D"yiv73=
89623530593474212-17092015"></span></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2"><span class=3D"yiv73=
89623530593474212-17092015">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; My Mk 1A has nuts=20
welded&nbsp;underneath&nbsp;to the floor pan for the seat belts.&nbsp; The =
nuts=20
have a short shoulder&nbsp;machined into them so they stick up near&nbsp;fl=
ush=20
to the inside floor pan.</span></font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2"><span class=3D"yiv73=
89623530593474212-17092015"></span></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2"><span class=3D"yiv73=
89623530593474212-17092015">I=20
believe those seat belt bolt positions were standard.&nbsp; There is also a=
=20
position for a shoulder harness belt on the rear wheel wells - mine were we=
lded=20
over.</span></font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2"><span class=3D"yiv73=
89623530593474212-17092015"></span></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2"><span class=3D"yiv73=
89623530593474212-17092015">I see=20
few choices if you welded up these positions.&nbsp; You can drill new holes=
 and=20
weld nuts to the floor pan then touch up the paint.</span></font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2"><span class=3D"yiv73=
89623530593474212-17092015">Bolt=20
in hardware kit - bolt, large washer, nut - no paint touch=20
up</span></font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2"><span class=3D"yiv73=
89623530593474212-17092015">Eyebolt hardware kit - eyebolt, large washer, n=
ut - no=20
paint touch up - hook and latch style seat belts required.</span></font></d=
iv>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2"><span class=3D"yiv73=
89623530593474212-17092015"></span></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2"><span class=3D"yiv73=
89623530593474212-17092015">If=20
your buckled into the seat it&nbsp; is not going to tip.</span></font></div=
>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2"><span class=3D"yiv73=
89623530593474212-17092015">If=20
your concern is with the empty seat tipping - fasten that seat belt to limi=
t its=20
movement.</span></font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2"><span class=3D"yiv73=
89623530593474212-17092015"></span></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2"><span class=3D"yiv73=
89623530593474212-17092015">Ron=20
Fraser</span></font></div>
<blockquote dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT:0px;">
  <div></div>
  <div class=3D"yiv7389623530yqt2934187514" id=3D"yiv7389623530yqt33445"><d=
iv class=3D"yiv7389623530OutlookMessageHeader" dir=3D"ltr" align=3D"left" l=
ang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2">-----Original Message-----<b=
r clear=3D"none"><b>From:</b> Tigers=20
  [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Joel Martin vi=
a=20
  Tigers<br clear=3D"none"><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 17, 2015 8:30 A=
M<br clear=3D"none"><b>To:</b>=20
  Tiger List Serve<br clear=3D"none"><b>Subject:</b> [Tigers] Seat Belts an=
d Seat=20
  Slider<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></font></div>
  <div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:#fff;FONT-FAMILY:garamond, new york, times=
, serif;COLOR:#000;FONT-SIZE:16px;">
  <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7389623530yui_3_16_0_1_1442492271710_4472">I mu=
st confess, when doing=20
  metal and body work, I did not think ahead regarding seat belt mounting=
=20
  locations.&nbsp; I know with 1968 and newer cars you are required to wear=
 a=20
  seat belt but I am sure I want them on any car I drive.</div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7389623530yui_3_16_0_1_1442492271710_4473"><br =
clear=3D"none"></div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7389623530yui_3_16_0_1_1442492271710_4474">So, =
what do people do=20
  regarding adding seat belts 'after' welding is out of the question with n=
ew=20
  paint completed and carpet installed?&nbsp; My MGB has welded in captive =
nuts=20
  for belts and shoulder strap mounting points and I guess I was thinking t=
he=20
  Tiger MK 1A had them as well - bad mistake.&nbsp; Options now?</div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7389623530yui_3_16_0_1_1442492271710_4488"><br =
clear=3D"none"></div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7389623530yui_3_16_0_1_1442492271710_4512">My o=
ther concern is with the=20
  seat slider where the seats 'raise/tip' forward with no way to hold back =
of=20
  seat frame from tipping forward in case of front end accident.&nbsp; How =
have=20
  folks addressed this issue or is it a none issue?</div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr">Regards</div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7389623530yui_3_16_0_1_1442492271710_4513">Joel=
 Martin<br clear=3D"none"></div>
  <div><br clear=3D"none"></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div><br><b=
r></div>  </div> </div>  </div></div></body></html>
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