I don't think Lord Rootes would have even known there was more than one
version of the engine. Based on my reading of practices in the British Car
industry at the time, and of bean counters in particular. I'm with Ron in
believing that there was likely a cost advantage to buying 260's when Rootes
spoke to Ford about sourcing the new small block V8. If 289's would have been
cheaper, they would have used those, regardless of what Shelby dropped in to
the "proof of concept" Alpine conversion. There are quite a few changes made
from the CS concept car to the production design and I'm sure the engineers at
Jensen took Shelby's creation for what it was... a proof of concept vehicle,
and not much more than that.
--- On Tue, 8/4/09, Tony Somebody
<achd73@yahoo.com> wrote:
> From: Tony Somebody <achd73@yahoo.com>
> Subject:
Re: [Tigers] Shelby Tigers?
> To: "'Steve Laifman'" <SLaifman@SoCal.rr.com>,
rfraser@bluefrog.com
> Cc: "'Beamclub'" <tigers@autox.team.net>
> Date:
Tuesday, August 4, 2009, 8:22 PM
> Ron- we can agree to disagree. If
> Shelby
had sent the Lord 289s in the
> prototype, I think we would have had 289s in
the first
> Tiger but as you say,
> that information is burried somewheree in
the UK and who
> knows, maybe Ford
> offered him 289s at X and 260s at 1/2X
and since money was
> a problem LR bougt
> the 260.As I said, its just a gut
feeling. That and 2.25
> will buy me a cold
> beer up town.
> Tony
>
> --- On
Tue, 8/4/09, Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com>
> wrote:
>
> > From: Ron
Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com>
> > Subject: RE: [Tigers] Shelby Tigers?
> > To:
"'Tony Somebody'" <achd73@yahoo.com>,
> "'Steve Laifman'"
>
<SLaifman@SoCal.rr.com>
> > Cc: "'Beamclub'" <tigers@autox.team.net>
> > Date:
Tuesday, August 4, 2009, 7:11 PM
> > Tony
> > I think you can look at it
>
from this
> > perspective; in the March,
> > April timeframe for the Tiger
prototype, CS had a few
> 289's
> > on hand and they
> > were showing
promise. You don't give
> away
> > your future. The 260 engine he
> > was
pulling out were basically scrap value to CS and
> > probably cluttering up
>
> the shop. You put a 260 into the
> Tiger
> > seems a no brainer to me.
> >
> > The real decision for the 260
> engines
> > was in Lord Rootes hands.
> > Whether he knew about the 289 engines or why he
> choose
> > 260's is
locked in a
> > conversation held 46 years ago.
> >
> > Ron Fraser
> >
> >
-----Original Message-----
> > From: Tony Somebody [mailto:achd73@yahoo.com]
>
>
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 5:46 PM
> > To: 'Steve Laifman';
rfraser@bluefrog.com
> > Cc: 'Beamclub'
> > Subject: RE: [Tigers] Shelby
Tigers?
> >
> >
> > Ron- I have no idea what protocol was used to decide
> on
the
> > 260 BUT if CS
> > had installed a 289, then we might not have ever
seen
> a 260
> > and that was my
> > unproveable gut feeling and what I think
CS would have
> been
> > thinking
> > business wise. Why would he build a
prototype that
> > would/could out perform
> > his car? As dumb as I am, I
wouldnt have made that
> mistake
> > and CS, above
> > all, is very much a
bussinessman.Im also glad
> something I
> > posted months ago
> > is creating
some LIST activity.
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