Norm should kick in here -- I thought that 260 engines were kicked over to
some sort of "industrial block" division of Ford.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Tony Mc
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Fraser" <rfraser@bluefrog.com>
To: "'Steve Laifman'" <SLaifman@SoCal.rr.com>; "'Tony Somebody'"
<achd73@yahoo.com>
Cc: "'Beamclub'" <tigers@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 5:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Shelby Tigers?
> Tony
>
> Yes the 289 was available; 289 was first cast in Dec 1962.
> The first Tiger 260 engine group was T15KL = Aug 8, 1963.
>
> Rootes history states that Lord Rootes called Henry Ford to acquire
> V8 engines for the Tiger. The timeframe here is a bit vague possibly May
> 1963. Yes 289 engines were available but it is a new, untested engine as
> far as Rootes was concerned and most likely there would be a big premium,
> $$, to get them. I'm guessing here but Ford was probably using all the
> 289
> engines for there own vehicles. I'm also guessing that Ford was still in
> the process of ramping up the production and assembly line for the 289.
> Like I said I'm guessing here but my thoughts are that Rootes
> considered the 260 engine a tried and tested engine. The price per 260
> assembly was probably lower than the 289; cost is a big factor with a new
> car venture plus Ford probably had 260 engine assemblies in stock ready to
> be shipped anywhere, now.
>
> I don't think Shelby had much influence at Rootes other than race
> engines and that influence probably waned very quickly after the Shelby
> built 260 engines failed at LeMans. As for Cobra parts being the same as
> a
> Tiger; I believe the same vendors were used for several parts so the parts
> could be off the same mold.
>
> My 2c worth.
>
> Ron Fraser
>
>
> Tony Somebody wrote:
>> I have absolutely no proof, other than a gut feeling BUT the 289 was
>> available for fitment in the first Tigers. My gut tells me CS had a
>> part in helping Rootes get 260 engines from Ford. he had to be aware
>> the Tiger was going to be a serious contender for outrunniing the
>> first Cobras that also received power from a 260 engine.I have no
>> opinion of what claim we have to Mr. shelby, especially calling the
>> Tiger a shelby Tiger- it just didnt exist. I have attended Shelby
>> events at the Brown cnty.anual Shelby event. His name is not on our
>> cars but we are set aside with our own group at the event and we are
>> accepted by them or we acceppt them if you will. At one time I thought
>> that some of the shelby tiger parts might also be used on the Cobra
>> but it is evident now that sellers are just using shelby to put the
>> parts on more screens and if the Cobra used the same part as a tiger
>> it was very few. If we could lay claim to being a real member of the
>> Shelby family it could only increase the value of our cars BUT I only
>> see the bastard stepson relationship. Im sure when ask that CS is
>> happy to claim the Tiger but Im not sure it is a valid claim. TtT
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