Ron- I have no idea what protocol was used to decide on the 260 BUT if CS had
installed a 289, then we might not have ever seen a 260 and that was my
unproveable gut feeling and what I think CS would have been thinking business
wise. Why would he build a prototype that would/could out perform his car? As
dumb as I am, I wouldnt have made that mistake and CS, above all, is very much
a bussinessman.Im also glad something I posted months ago is creating some
LIST activity.
--- On Tue, 8/4/09, Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com> wrote:
> From: Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com>
> Subject: RE: [Tigers] Shelby Tigers?
> To: "'Steve Laifman'" <SLaifman@SoCal.rr.com>, "'Tony Somebody'"
<achd73@yahoo.com>
> Cc: "'Beamclub'" <tigers@autox.team.net>
> Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2009, 4:21 PM
> Tony
>
> Yes the 289 was available; 289 was first
> cast in Dec 1962.
> The first Tiger 260 engine group was T15KL = Aug 8, 1963.
>
> Rootes history states that Lord Rootes
> called Henry Ford to acquire
> V8 engines for the Tiger. The timeframe here is a bit
> vague possibly May
> 1963. Yes 289 engines were available but
> it is a new, untested engine as
> far as Rootes was concerned and most likely there would be
> a big premium,
> $$, to get them. I'm guessing here but
> Ford was probably using all the 289
> engines for there own vehicles. I'm also
> guessing that Ford was still in
> the process of ramping up the production and assembly line
> for the 289.
> Like I said I'm guessing here but my
> thoughts are that Rootes
> considered the 260 engine a tried and tested
> engine. The price per 260
> assembly was probably lower than the 289; cost is a big
> factor with a new
> car venture plus Ford probably had 260 engine assemblies in
> stock ready to
> be shipped anywhere, now.
>
> I don't think Shelby had much influence
> at Rootes other than race
> engines and that influence probably waned very quickly
> after the Shelby
> built 260 engines failed at LeMans. As for Cobra
> parts being the same as a
> Tiger; I believe the same vendors were used for several
> parts so the parts
> could be off the same mold.
>
> My 2c worth.
>
> Ron Fraser
>
>
> Tony Somebody wrote:
> > I have absolutely no proof, other than a gut feeling
> BUT the 289 was
> > available for fitment in the first Tigers. My gut
> tells me CS had a
> > part in helping Rootes get 260 engines from Ford. he
> had to be aware
> > the Tiger was going to be a serious contender for
> outrunniing the
> > first Cobras that also received power from a 260
> engine.I have no
> > opinion of what claim we have to Mr. shelby,
> especially calling the
> > Tiger a shelby Tiger- it just didnt exist. I have
> attended Shelby
> > events at the Brown cnty.anual Shelby event. His name
> is not on our
> > cars but we are set aside with our own group at the
> event and we are
> > accepted by them or we acceppt them if you will. At
> one time I thought
> > that some of the shelby tiger parts might also be used
> on the Cobra
> > but it is evident now that sellers are just using
> shelby to put the
> > parts on more screens and if the Cobra used the same
> part as a tiger
> > it was very few. If we could lay claim to being a real
> member of the
> > Shelby family it could only increase the value of our
> cars BUT I only
> > see the bastard stepson relationship. Im sure when ask
> that CS is
> > happy to claim the Tiger but Im not sure it is a valid
> claim. TtT
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