Jan,
These are not correct for the trim mouldings. How does the trim attach to
the rivet? Why do a private auction on this piece and not on any of your
other auctions?
Tim
----- Original Message -----
From: Jan Sven-Erik Harde <harde@cyberesc.net>
To: tjordan <tjordan@wagnerprocess.com>
Cc: TIGER LIST <tigers@autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2000 1:01 PM
Subject: Re: My Orginality Philosophy
> Tim,
>
> I see your point, but please review my listing on EBAY...
>
> *** WOW *** HERE WE GO, YOUR BID WILL INCLUDE A SET OF (4) OF THE CORRECT
> RIVETS THAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR, THEY ARE STILL IN THE ORIGINAL ROOTES
BAG,
> AND THE AUCTION IS PRIVATE, SO AS TO KEEP THINGS "PRIVATE" AND A VERY VERY
> *LOW* RESERVE.... GOOD LUCK & HAPPY BIDDING ON THESE HARD TO FIND ITEMS,
TO
> COMPLETE THAT SPECIAL CORRECT RESTORATION !! E-MAIL WITH ANY QUESTIONS.
>
> No where does it say what they are for??
> Although you could use them for what ever one wants to, VIN, side moldings
> what ever.
>
> Please also remember that removal of the VIN plate has been done by every
> car restorer since restorations started, you can buy new VIN plates for
> AJaguar, MG, MGB (through MOSS Motors), Early Mini's and Early Volvo
P1800's
> used Small Phillips head screws..
> I would venture to say that 99.99999% of all cars out there that have a
> CORRECT resto. do the same, and it is just another service of providing a
> part to make a car more like the original.
> What ever the reason someone has a Repro plate, HOT fires with melting, a
> body shop buffer or sander screwing it up, we all want our cars very
pretty
> and nice, and if someone does not like what I am selling GOD BLESS THEM, I
> am not twisting arms to sell anything, and if not Happy, then just return
> it, I do not see what the HOOPLA is all about??
>
> I have NEVER had one single complaint on these items, and there actually
was
> a part #, that is if you have the correct factory manual, and body shop
> supplement.. And guess what they are one and the same numbers, just think
> how would the factory have known what to use...
>
> Have a WONDERFUL weekend all, And HAPPY TIGERING...
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: tjordan <tjordan@wagnerprocess.com>
> To: tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>; Jan Sven-Erik Harde
<harde@CyberEsc.net>
> Sent: Friday, March 24, 2000 12:46 PM
> Subject: Re: My Orginality Philosophy
>
>
> > Jan,
> > Having a Rootes bag and a part # does'nt necessarily mean the rivets are
> > Tiger original or even factory replacements. There was never a part# on
> the
> > rivets to match up. As you know Rootes manufactured many models and
> > supplied parts for all of them. These rivets could be for a Super Snipe
> for
> > Christ's sake! Are your rivets made from copper? Do you know what the
> > original rivets for the chassis ID and spec plate were made of? Maybe
a
> > better description would be that you believe these rivets are a Rootes
> > factory replacement. They are a good option for replacing a spec. plate
> or
> > chassis ID if you inadvertantly removed them for a restoration or had to
> > repair due to collision or fire.
> >
> > Using these rivets with a reproduction chassis plate is not an issue.
The
> > issue is why the "car" is in need of the rivets and ID. Many Tiger
owners
> > have had to resort to repro ID due to fire or accidents. Most are
> > forthcoming and will tell the story behind the new ID. Having a private
> > auction only leads to the belief that these rivets will be used in a
> covert
> > and deceptive manner. With the many possible legitimate reasons to use
> > these rivets, why the secrecy?
> >
> > Should we spread the word for the sake of our Marque and those
prospective
> > Tiger buyers that a car without a TAC certificate and with copper rivets
> may
> > be a RED flag for an "Alger" conversion?
> >
> > I don't have a Rootes bag, but if anyone is intersted I have several of
> > these rivets in the correct metal configuration. They seem to be quite
> > common at several hobby shops. They are very inexpensive.
> >
> > I have also heard some good things about Jan and agree with Mr. Laifmans
> > testimony. Detailed and correct descriptions, along with an open
auction
> > may have been a better tack.
> >
> > Tim
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Jan Sven-Erik Harde <harde@cyberesc.net>
> > To: Bob Palmer <rpalmer@ames.ucsd.edu>
> > Cc: TIGER LIST <tigers@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Friday, March 24, 2000 8:52 AM
> > Subject: Re: My Orginality Philosophy
> >
> >
> > > I do not think so, as they were sold by Rootes, they are in original
> > Rootes
> > > bags, with a Rootes parts # as well.., and at one time sold right at
the
> > > dealers, and certainly NOT illegal at all....
> > > No registration with the government to own, not lethal nor very
> dangerous
> > at
> > > all....
> > > Certainly not as bad as having ILLEGALLY made repro. VIN tags on a
car,
> > > would you say???
> > >
> > > Have a GREAT weekend all.
> > >
> > > Jan...
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Bob Palmer <rpalmer@ames.ucsd.edu>
> > > To: Margi & Norm <rootes1@best.com>; <tigers@autox.team.net>
> > > Sent: Friday, March 24, 2000 9:38 AM
> > > Subject: Re: My Orginality Philosophy
> > >
> > >
> > > > Norm,
> > > >
> > > > I suspect Jan, in cooperation with TAC, has mounted a sting
operation.
> > > This
> > > > is consistent with the "private" auction format. As with guns, once
> the
> > > > authorities know who has them, the next step is confiscation. ;-)
> > > >
> > > > Suckered in San Diego,
> > > >
> > > > Bob
> > > >
> > > > At 09:14 AM 3/24/00 -0800, Margi & Norm wrote:
> > > > >At 10:07 PM 3/23/2000 -0600, Mark Meswarb wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >Check out these original Rootes rivets at "Pivate Auction" on
eBay
> > > > >
> > >http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&tc=ps&item=290009951
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Sound similiar to: "When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will
have
> > > guns."
> > > > > >
> > > > > >When I found them, they were at $40. Might just be a market
here.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Later,
> > > > > >Mark
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >Does anyone seriously believe that Jan Harde has and is selling
> > original
> > > > >Sunbeam Tiger chassis tag rivets? GIVE ME A BREAK
> > > > >
> > > > >Norm
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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