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Re: cylinder head

To: eyp_jl <eyp_jl@netzero.net>
Subject: Re: cylinder head
From: Richard B Gosling <Gosling_Richard_B@perkins.com>
Date: 25 Sep 2000 02:52:57 -0500
With a cast iron head the difference between hot and cold isn't that great.
 Yes, the bolts heat up and expand, but so do the cylinder head and block, by a
 similar amount (similar temperatures, similar thermal expansion
 co-efficients).  But the answer to the first question is yes, the resultant
 torque from re-tightening the nuts when hot is what the design engineer
 intended.

As for a summer and winter spec for wheel nuts, for a start the temperatures
 are not different enough to be very significant.  In the UK at least, summer
 is rarely hotter than 25C, and winter rarely colder than 3C so we are talking
 a 22C swing.  Engines go from around 20C (or whatever it was when assembled)
 to 130C around the bolt bosses when hot - 5* the swing.

Ignoring this fact, it is the change in temperatures that causes the problem.
 So, if the temperature outside stays around 5C most of the winter, your wheel
 nuts will stay at the prescribed load all winter.  When summer arrived, the
 bolts would expand, and then your nuts would be (a tiny bit) loose, so you
 could re-tighten them, but again just to the defined load, where they would
 stay all summer.  None of this is remotely necessary, I am just following the
 theoretical arguement here about what to do if you wanted to make sure your
 nuts were at exactly the right load all year.

Richard






eyp_jl@netzero.net on 22Sep2000 10:24 PM

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My question about this is the retorqueing after engine warm-up. When
 the
engine warms up the studs warm up and since it is allot longer than it is
around it lengthens with the expansion due to heat and that means the
applied torque is lower. So, you re-torque it and then when it cools and
shrinks the applied torque will be much higher than what you originally had.
Now, is this resultant torque the actual specification that the design
engineer wanted?
When you deal with high temperature pressure vessels and you want to torque
the 2 or 3'' bolts to 1.5mega foot  pounds force the temperature elongation
is calculated and the bolt is heated then torqued to a lower value.
This also makes me wonder if there should be a Summer and Winter spec for
wheel nuts

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