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[Shop-talk] red LocTite: How much heat do you need to disassemble parts

To: Shop-Talk <shop-talk@autox.team.net>, Philip Ethier <pethier7@gmail.com>
Subject: [Shop-talk] red LocTite: How much heat do you need to disassemble parts
From: Philip Ethier <pethier7@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2026 19:42:39 -0500
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I figured that changing the side mirrors on the Birkin would be a walk in
the park.  The mirrors that came to me with this car are flat.  The left
one is wonky, and a DPO tried to fix that with an airplane clamp.  That
does not work.





Got new mirrors.  Convex.  Look good.  Mounting method looks identical.  I
rolled back the big locknut.  Now all I have to do is grab onto the mirror
strut and rotate it out.  No go.  I took a closer look:


https://www.flickr.com/photos/pethier/55213872895/in/photostream/




I see red.  I fear that some DPO has used Red LocTite on this mirror stem.
WHY?  There is a massive locknut on this (much-more substantial stuff than
on my Caterham).  I can't believe it would rattle loose untreated, much
less rattle loose with Blue LocTite.





Just for laughs, I check the right mirror.  No, that one is not coming off
either.



OK, so if it is red LocTite, there is no way it is coming out without
heat.  So how much heat do I need?  Will a serious heat gun do the job?



I have already wrestled off the wind deflectors, since they certainly will
not survive any heat in the area.



Should I not try heat here?  Plan B would be to declare the removal
impossible,



crack the nut and Dremel the part that didn't fracture



saw the mirror stem off leaving the threaded stub sticking out of the
windshield frame



find or make coupling nuts and screw the new mirrors into those




-- 
Phil Ethier, West Side, Saint Paul Minnesota, USA
2006 Gulf Stream Conquest Super C, 8.1, white
2011 Cayman 2.9 PDK, white
2021 Ford F-150 3500cc twin turbo, white
1991 Caterham 1700 Super Sprint, not white
2003? Birkin, green
www.mnautox.com

<http://www.mnautox.com/>

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one;font-kerning:auto;font-feature-settings:normal;font-stretch:normal;line=
-height:normal"><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif" size=3D"4">I figured that =
changing the side mirrors on the Birkin would be a walk in the park.=C2=A0 =
The mirrors that came to me with this car are flat.=C2=A0 The left one is w=
onky, and a DPO tried to fix that with an airplane clamp.=C2=A0 That does n=
ot work.</font></p>
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variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-size-adjust:n=
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<p class=3D"gmail-p2" style=3D"margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-=
variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-size-adjust:n=
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<p class=3D"gmail-p1" style=3D"margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-=
variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-size-adjust:n=
one;font-kerning:auto;font-feature-settings:normal;font-stretch:normal;line=
-height:normal"><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif" size=3D"4">Got new mirrors=
.=C2=A0 Convex.=C2=A0 Look good.=C2=A0 Mounting method looks identical.=C2=
=A0 I rolled back the big locknut.=C2=A0 Now all I have to do is grab onto =
the mirror strut and rotate it out.=C2=A0 No go.=C2=A0 I took a closer look=
:</font></p>
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variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-size-adjust:n=
one;font-kerning:auto;font-feature-settings:normal;font-stretch:normal;line=
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variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-size-adjust:n=
one;font-kerning:auto;font-feature-settings:normal;font-stretch:normal;line=
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s://www.flickr.com/photos/pethier/55213872895/in/photostream/">https://www.=
flickr.com/photos/pethier/55213872895/in/photostream/</a></font></p>
<p class=3D"gmail-p1" style=3D"margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-=
variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-size-adjust:n=
one;font-kerning:auto;font-feature-settings:normal;font-stretch:normal;line=
-height:normal"><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif" size=3D"4">=C2=A0</font></=
p>
<p class=3D"gmail-p2" style=3D"margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-=
variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-size-adjust:n=
one;font-kerning:auto;font-feature-settings:normal;font-stretch:normal;line=
-height:normal;min-height:14px"><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif" size=3D"4"=
><br></font></p>
<p class=3D"gmail-p1" style=3D"margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-=
variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-size-adjust:n=
one;font-kerning:auto;font-feature-settings:normal;font-stretch:normal;line=
-height:normal"><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif" size=3D"4">I see red.=C2=
=A0 I fear that some DPO has used Red LocTite on this mirror stem.=C2=A0 WH=
Y?=C2=A0 There is a massive locknut on this (much-more substantial stuff th=
an on my Caterham).=C2=A0 I can&#39;t believe it would rattle loose untreat=
ed, much less rattle loose with Blue LocTite.</font></p>
<p class=3D"gmail-p2" style=3D"margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-=
variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-size-adjust:n=
one;font-kerning:auto;font-feature-settings:normal;font-stretch:normal;line=
-height:normal;min-height:14px"><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif" size=3D"4"=
><br></font></p>
<p class=3D"gmail-p1" style=3D"margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-=
variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-size-adjust:n=
one;font-kerning:auto;font-feature-settings:normal;font-stretch:normal;line=
-height:normal"><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif" size=3D"4">=C2=A0</font></=
p>
<p class=3D"gmail-p2" style=3D"margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-=
variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-size-adjust:n=
one;font-kerning:auto;font-feature-settings:normal;font-stretch:normal;line=
-height:normal;min-height:14px"><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif" size=3D"4"=
><br></font></p>
<p class=3D"gmail-p3" style=3D"margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-=
variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-size-adjust:n=
one;font-kerning:auto;font-feature-settings:normal;font-stretch:normal;line=
-height:normal;color:rgb(40,46,50)"><span class=3D"gmail-s1" style=3D"font-=
kerning:none"><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif" size=3D"4">Just for laughs, =
I check the right mirror.=C2=A0 No, that one is not coming off either.</fon=
t></span></p>
<p class=3D"gmail-p3" style=3D"margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-=
variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-size-adjust:n=
one;font-kerning:auto;font-feature-settings:normal;font-stretch:normal;line=
-height:normal;color:rgb(40,46,50)"><span class=3D"gmail-s1" style=3D"font-=
kerning:none"><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif" size=3D"4">=C2=A0</font></sp=
an></p>
<p class=3D"gmail-p3" style=3D"margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-=
variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-size-adjust:n=
one;font-kerning:auto;font-feature-settings:normal;font-stretch:normal;line=
-height:normal;color:rgb(40,46,50)"><span class=3D"gmail-s1" style=3D"font-=
kerning:none"><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif" size=3D"4">OK, so if it is r=
ed LocTite, there is no way it is coming out without heat.=C2=A0 So how muc=
h heat do I need?=C2=A0 Will a serious heat gun do the job?=C2=A0=C2=A0</fo=
nt></span></p>
<p class=3D"gmail-p3" style=3D"margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-=
variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-size-adjust:n=
one;font-kerning:auto;font-feature-settings:normal;font-stretch:normal;line=
-height:normal;color:rgb(40,46,50)"><span class=3D"gmail-s1" style=3D"font-=
kerning:none"><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif" size=3D"4">=C2=A0</font></sp=
an></p>
<p class=3D"gmail-p3" style=3D"margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-=
variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-size-adjust:n=
one;font-kerning:auto;font-feature-settings:normal;font-stretch:normal;line=
-height:normal;color:rgb(40,46,50)"><span class=3D"gmail-s1" style=3D"font-=
kerning:none"><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif" size=3D"4">I have already wr=
estled off the wind deflectors, since they certainly will not survive any h=
eat in the area.</font></span></p>
<p class=3D"gmail-p3" style=3D"margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-=
variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-size-adjust:n=
one;font-kerning:auto;font-feature-settings:normal;font-stretch:normal;line=
-height:normal;color:rgb(40,46,50)"><span class=3D"gmail-s1" style=3D"font-=
kerning:none"><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif" size=3D"4">=C2=A0</font></sp=
an></p>
<p class=3D"gmail-p3" style=3D"margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-=
variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-size-adjust:n=
one;font-kerning:auto;font-feature-settings:normal;font-stretch:normal;line=
-height:normal;color:rgb(40,46,50)"><span class=3D"gmail-s1" style=3D"font-=
kerning:none"><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif" size=3D"4">Should I not try =
heat here?=C2=A0 Plan B would be to declare the removal impossible,</font><=
/span></p>
<p class=3D"gmail-p3" style=3D"margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-=
variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-size-adjust:n=
one;font-kerning:auto;font-feature-settings:normal;font-stretch:normal;line=
-height:normal;color:rgb(40,46,50)"><span class=3D"gmail-s1" style=3D"font-=
kerning:none"><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif" size=3D"4">=C2=A0</font></sp=
an></p>
<p class=3D"gmail-p3" style=3D"margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-=
variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-size-adjust:n=
one;font-kerning:auto;font-feature-settings:normal;font-stretch:normal;line=
-height:normal;color:rgb(40,46,50)"><span class=3D"gmail-s1" style=3D"font-=
kerning:none"><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif" size=3D"4">crack the nut and=
 Dremel the part that didn&#39;t fracture=C2=A0</font></span></p>
<p class=3D"gmail-p3" style=3D"margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-=
variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-size-adjust:n=
one;font-kerning:auto;font-feature-settings:normal;font-stretch:normal;line=
-height:normal;color:rgb(40,46,50)"><span class=3D"gmail-s1" style=3D"font-=
kerning:none"><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif" size=3D"4">=C2=A0</font></sp=
an></p>
<p class=3D"gmail-p3" style=3D"margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-=
variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-size-adjust:n=
one;font-kerning:auto;font-feature-settings:normal;font-stretch:normal;line=
-height:normal;color:rgb(40,46,50)"><span class=3D"gmail-s1" style=3D"font-=
kerning:none"><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif" size=3D"4">saw the mirror st=
em off leaving the threaded stub sticking out of the windshield frame</font=
></span></p>
<p class=3D"gmail-p3" style=3D"margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-=
variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-size-adjust:n=
one;font-kerning:auto;font-feature-settings:normal;font-stretch:normal;line=
-height:normal;color:rgb(40,46,50)"><span class=3D"gmail-s1" style=3D"font-=
kerning:none"><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif" size=3D"4">=C2=A0</font></sp=
an></p>
<p class=3D"gmail-p3" style=3D"margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-=
variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-size-adjust:n=
one;font-kerning:auto;font-feature-settings:normal;font-stretch:normal;line=
-height:normal;color:rgb(40,46,50)"><span class=3D"gmail-s1" style=3D"font-=
kerning:none"><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif" size=3D"4">find or make coup=
ling nuts and screw the new mirrors into those</font></span></p>
<p class=3D"gmail-p3" style=3D"margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-=
variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-size-adjust:n=
one;font-kerning:auto;font-feature-settings:normal;font-stretch:normal;line=
-height:normal;color:rgb(40,46,50)"><span class=3D"gmail-s1" style=3D"font-=
kerning:none"><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif" size=3D"4">=C2=A0</font></sp=
an></p>
<p class=3D"gmail-p4" style=3D"margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-=
variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-size-adjust:n=
one;font-kerning:auto;font-feature-settings:normal;font-stretch:normal;line=
-height:normal"><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif" size=3D"4"></font></p></di=
v><div><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif" size=3D"4"><br></font></div><font f=
ace=3D"arial, sans-serif" size=3D"4"><span class=3D"gmail_signature_prefix"=
>-- </span><br></font><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature" data-smart=
mail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"=
><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:rgb=
(255,255,255)"><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif" size=3D"4">Phil Ethier, Wes=
t Side, Saint Paul Minnesota, USA</font></span></div><div><span style=3D"co=
lor:rgb(0,0,0)"><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif" size=3D"4">2006 Gulf Strea=
m Conquest Super C, 8.1, white</font></span></div><div><span style=3D"color=
:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><font face=3D"arial, sans-se=
rif" size=3D"4">2011 Cayman 2.9 PDK, white</font></span></div><div><span st=
yle=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><font face=3D"ar=
ial, sans-serif" size=3D"4">2021 Ford F-150 3500cc twin turbo, white</font>=
</span></div><div><span style=3D"background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><font f=
ace=3D"arial, sans-serif" size=3D"4">1991 Caterham 1700 Super Sprint, not w=
hite</font></span></div><div><span style=3D"background-color:rgb(255,255,25=
5)"><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif" size=3D"4"><span class=3D"gmail_defaul=
t" style=3D"">2003? Birkin, green</span><br><a href=3D"http://www.mnautox.c=
om/" style=3D"color:rgb(0,24,57)" target=3D"_blank">www.mnautox.com</a></fo=
nt></span></div><div><span style=3D"background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><a h=
ref=3D"http://www.mnautox.com/"; style=3D"color:rgb(0,24,57)" target=3D"_bla=
nk"><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif" size=3D"4"><br></font></a></span><br><=
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