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Re: [Shop-talk] Fog and Driving Lights

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Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Fog and Driving Lights
From: Neil Sherry via Shop-talk <shop-talk@autox.team.net>
Date: Fri, 1 May 2020 19:39:43 +0100
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Should work, I think. Just connect the first one to one light and the =
input of the second, then the other light to the output of the second =
relay.

What you are doing is effectively binary counting, stepping with each =
successive press of the switch:

00

01

10

11

00

=E2=80=A6

Although I would question why you would want fog & spot lights on =
together =E2=80=93 I wpuld have thought one or the other =E2=80=93 =
it=E2=80=99s either foggy and you want the wide flat short beam or clear =
and you want the narrow longer throw.

Neil

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From: Shop-talk <shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Jeff =
Scarbrough via Shop-talk
Sent: 01 May 2020 01:56
To: Shop-talk@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Fog and Driving Lights

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On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 5:47 PM Jim Stone via Shop-talk =


Does anyone know if such a relay exists?  If not, is there a simple =
circuit that would make a standard relay work as described?

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 If I recall correctly, a pair of old VW headlight dimming relays would =
be a period-correct solution.  Grounding the relay by pulling on the =
turn signal lever would flip-flop the relay between high beam and low =
beam.  Or, in your case, on or off.  The old relays had to have the =
headlights on to power them, you would need to figure out how to remind =
yourself to turn the lights off or use a relay on the ignition wire to =
control the power.

Or, use one of them high-falutin' electronic gadgets...


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style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Should work, I think. Just connect =
the first one to one light and the input of the second, then the other =
light to the output of the second relay.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>What you =
are doing is effectively binary counting, stepping with each successive =
press of the switch:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>00<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>01<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>10<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>11<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>00<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>=E2=80=A6<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Although I =
would question why you would want fog &amp; spot lights on together =
=E2=80=93 I wpuld have thought one or the other =E2=80=93 it=E2=80=99s =
either foggy and you want the wide flat short beam or clear and you want =
the narrow longer throw.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Neil<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
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0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
lang=3DEN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US> Shop-talk =
&lt;shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jeff =
Scarbrough via Shop-talk<br><b>Sent:</b> 01 May 2020 01:56<br><b>To:</b> =
Shop-talk@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Shop-talk] Fog and =
Driving Lights<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 5:47 PM Jim Stone via Shop-talk &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:shop-talk@autox.team.net";>shop-talk@autox.team.net</a>&gt;=
 wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
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6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><br>Does =
anyone know if such a relay exists?&nbsp; If not, is there a simple =
circuit that would make a standard relay work as =
described?<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;If I recall correctly, a pair of old VW =
headlight dimming relays would be a period-correct solution.&nbsp; =
Grounding the relay by pulling on the turn signal lever would flip-flop =
the relay between high beam and low beam.&nbsp; Or, in your case, on or =
off.&nbsp; The old relays had to have the headlights on to power them, =
you would need to figure out how to remind yourself to turn the lights =
off or use a relay on the ignition wire to control&nbsp;the =
power.<br><br>Or, use one of them high-falutin' electronic =
gadgets...<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></body></html>
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