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Re: Finding a vacuum leak

To: Martin <martin@virtual-motors.com>
Subject: Re: Finding a vacuum leak
From: Roger Gibbs <rgibbs@pacbell.net>
Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 15:33:59 -0700
Hey Martin,

Let me clarify what I wrote, afterall I don't want anyone to get themselves 
"all blowed up"
based on what they think I said.

I did agree with the earlier advice to replace the hoses, and gave a couple of 
reasons why
this is a good idea.  I was not advocating trying to save 14 year old hoses.

I do think that using WD-40 is a viable method for isolating a vacuum leak.  It 
is a
limited technique and is not very good for detecting a leaking hose, but there 
are times
when it is a useful method.    By using that small tube that comes with most of 
these cans,
one is able to spray/spurt a very small amount of liquid at the suspected leak. 
 When done
properly this is not overly hazardous.  I do not use starter fluid nor do I use 
this
technique near hot components because I do not feel this is safe.

Thanks for the response.

-Roger

Martin wrote:

> Consider what  you stand to gain by saving 14 year old vacuum line vs. what  
>you stand
> to lose by putting your head under the hood of a running engine and spraying 
>a flammable
> aerosol. Besides, you can probably buy enough hose to do the entire engine 
>for the price
> of a can of WD-40 or starter fluid.
>
> Roger Gibbs wrote:
>
> > Jim,
> >
> > I will second  the advice given my "M" below (makes me souund like James 
>Bond to say
> > that).
> >
> > In my experience there are large differences in the life expectancy of 
>"rubber"
> > hoses.  Depending on the use in your area of gasoline additives, the 
>presence or
> > lack of oil leaks/fumes and the routing of hoses near heat sources can all 
>cause.,in
> > some cases a dramatic, a shortening of the life of a hose.  If you do go 
>and buy
> > enough bulk hose length to replace the hoses a couple of good things will 
>results:
> > 1. You will have new hoses of known quality, 2. you may find the vacuum 
>leak for
> > certain (there may be a slit is a line that you cannot see), 3. You will 
>have a
> > better idea of the condition of other parts of the car, (might find a 
>broken or
> > fraying wire, a developing fluid leak, etc.).
> >
> > In response to your question about using starter fluid.  I have used liquid 
>to
> > diagnois vacuum leaks , although I do not use starter fluid.  You do not 
>necessary
> > need to feed a fuel, you are trying to stop a vacuum leak.  Say you have a 
>torn
> > gasket  between two machined surfaces.  A liquid will be pulled in and 
>temporaily
> > seal the leak.  I have used carb cleaner and WD-40.  Just a little. This 
>has been
> > successful for me. These fluids are also flammable and I am careful to use 
>just a
> > little and I haven't had the need to spray them near a hot exhaust 
>manifold, and
> > probaly never will.  If you think you know the area where a leak might 
>exist you
> > could also spread a little grease to offer a seal.
> >
> > Good luck!
> >
> > Oh, also remeber that the vacuum line may be used to actuate air 
>conditioning valves
> > and such within the cab.  If the condition comes and goes based on a/c 
>controls you
> > might want to look there.
> >
> > -Roger

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