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Re: [oletrucks] Wet sanding

To: BelAir Bob <rogerz@planetwide.com>
Subject: Re: [oletrucks] Wet sanding
From: "A.B." <bigfred@unm.edu>
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 10:55:47 -0700 (MST)
Sounds like good technique overall, but I dont' like to spray a guide coat
on my *final (wetsanded)* primer.  Maybe I'm paranoid, but I dont' like to
mix the chemicals in the spray can paint with the chemicals I'm going to
lay down in color coat.  I was taught that a guide coat is for looking for
highs and lows in the final stages.  After those are all found, the last
layer(s) of primer are layed down and wet sanded with a pad (or block).
When it feels like glass, I know I'm done.  I realize your sanding the
black guide coat off, but it seems sketchy to me... I'm totally *not*
saying your technique is bad, just trying to put out another point of view
for those who are not sure how the final stages of paint prep work.
-alfie



On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, BelAir Bob wrote:

> Tom,
>
> There are two stages of the paint process when you can wet sand.  The first
> is the final sanding of the primer coat before painting. The second is after
> the paint has dried before polishing.
>
> I'm sure others have different techniques for wet sanding but this one was
> taught to me by a buddy who produces consistent show winning paint jobs.
>
> The pupose of wet sanding the primer is to produce a MUCH smoother paint
> finish.  The technique I use involves a five gallon bucket of warm water, a
> few drops of dish soap, a large sponge, 600 grit 3M Wet or Dry sand paper
> and a can of cheap flat black spray paint.  I do not use a sanding block for
> wet sanding.  The procedure starts by applying a "guide coat" of flat black
> spray paint.  This coat should be nothing more than hazy black stripes a few
> inches, 4" to 5", over the entire piece to be sanded.  You don't want to
> make solid black stripes, they should look a little heavier than just over
> spray would.  The purpose of the stripes is to indicate where you have
> sanded and where you may have missed a spot.  I start by soaking the
> sandpaper for about 30 minutes to soften up the paper.  This makes the paper
> backing more plyable.  The actual process of sanding starts with me cutting
> each sheet of paper into thirds and folding the piece I'm going to use into
> thirds.  I "load" the sponge with water, wet down the area where I'm going
> to start and then begin sanding in a circular motion.  You need to be ver
> cafeful not to sand with your fingertips.  This can cause shallow groves in
> the primer coat.  Instead, keep the paper back under you fingers, say from
> the first knucke down.  This gives good even sanding pressure.  Be sure to
> take off and rings you might normally wear and even trim you finger nails.
> The finger nail thing sounds funny but I have seen "sanding scratches" from
> a buddy of mine that has particularly thick finger nails and bad sanding
> technique. There are times when you will have to use you fingertips to sand
> but just go easy when you do.  As I sand with one hand, I keep a constant
> trickle of water running from the sponge.  You can tell when you aren't
> using enough water when the paper sticks to the surface.  Be sure to dip the
> paper in your water bucket fairly often to rinse of the "sludge" that builds
> up on it.  I continue on in this fashion until all of the guide coat is
> gone.  I finish the wet sanding procedure with a good wash job, water with a
> tiny amount of dish soap,  of the entire piece and a complete drying with
> disposable towels.  In my experience,  if I have done a propper job of
> sanding, the primer will actually have a low shine to it.
>
>
> Wet snading the finished paint before polishing is done with the same basic
> technique with a few exceptions.  First and foremost, do not spray a guide
> coat.  Second, at this point I actually sand the entire piece twice, once
> with 1500 grit and once with 2000.  After the water has been dried from the
> sanded piece any area you missed will be glossy.  Once all the missed areas
> are sanded you can polish the paint.  I don't do the polishing so I can't
> comment on the procedure.
>
> I hope this rather long winded explination helps.
>
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