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Re: Engine Conversions alt. fuels

To: jello@ida.net, "Michael W. Jose" <mwjose@cox.net>,
Subject: Re: Engine Conversions alt. fuels
From: Barrie Robinson <barrier@bconnex.net>
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 15:03:49 -0800
So where does one mine hydrogen?  I mean you wouldn't have to burn coal, 
gas or oil to produce the electricity to hydrolise water to produce 
hydrogen would you?

So assuming that the various energy conversion processes are 50% efficient 
we would get

Burning oil in cars = 50% efficiency
Burning hydrogen in cars = 50% (oil burn) X 50% (electricity burn) X 50% 
(hydrogen burn) + 12.5% efficiency

So burning oil (gas/petrol) gives us a 50% efficiency and going to hydrogen 
gives us 12.5% efficiency.  Let's all go that way an let's all increase the 
need to burn more oil!!!

At 08:23 AM 1/30/2003 +0000, jello@ida.net wrote:
>Hydrogen sounds good because in theory combustion of only hydrogen and
>oxygen creates water. But in theory combustion of petroleum products only
>creates a bunch of water with some carbon monoxide and carbon dioxide
>too.  But remember the big problem emmission is from nitrogen and oxygen
>(NOx) in various chemical combinations.  Guess what - for those that don't
>realize it air is 79% nitrogen, so if you combust hydrogen and oxygen
>under pressure in the presense of nitrogen, there's likely to be some NOx
>in the exhaust.  Can't say for sure, but I'm guessing it isn't as clean in
>practice as it is in theory.
>
>Phil Bates
>'67 MGB
>'58 MGA
>misc other stuff
>
> > David Randall wrote:
> >
> > >Folks,
> > >
> > >I'm looking at driving the 'B the rest of my life, and I think that by
>2010
> > >gasoline will be at least $5/gallon. With this in mind, my future engine
> > >mods will take fuel-efficiency highly into account.
> > >
> > >
> > David,
> > What about hydrogen?  you can run an internal combustion engine on the
> > stuff, and it is set to become the replacement of gasoline at the pump.
> >  Mazda and bmw are making cars with similar-to-stock performance running
> > hydrogen.  Even 'dubya' likes it!
> > I've been toying with the idea of converting a car to hydrogen for
> > several years-- too bad I dont' have any money!
> > Mike Jose
> > 79 B
> > Phoenix
>

Regards
Barrie

Barrie Robinson
barrier@bconnex.net 

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