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Re: Tube shock conversion data

To: "Chris Attias" <cattias@cats.ucsc.edu>,
Subject: Re: Tube shock conversion data
From: "David Hill" <Davhill@btinternet.com>
Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 22:22:37 +0100
Hi,

I've found that you don't need track data to tell the difference between
overdamping and useable settings.
The Konis on the back of my GT were set way too firm; with good road tyres
this gave surprise oversteer on bumpy surfaces, particularly in the wet.
Now, the units are set at 1/2 a turn , which gives a good compromise between
ride quality and grip.
A long time ago (in a garage far, far away), I also rebuilt a Bill Nicholson
Racing B Roadster and experienced very similar behaviour with Armstrong
adjustable lever dampers on the rear. So, I would suggest that for road use,
fine-tuning the settings to taste appears to be the valid option (Nomex
knickers duly donned).

Cheers,

Dave H

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----- Original Message -----
From: Chris Attias <cattias@cats.ucsc.edu>
To: MG Listserver <mgs@autox.team.net>; Tim Economu <economu@whidbey.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2000 6:10 PM
Subject: Re: Tube shock conversion data


> At 9:30 AM -0600 6/8/2000, Tim Economu wrote:
> >Yes I agree. Let's see track data and let's hear from the experts!!
>
> I guess the big question is, do you really want to drive on the track
> or the street?  Do you autocross on the weekends?  The setup--spring
> rates, ride height, horsepower, sway bar spec, aftermarket suspension
> stuff like panhard rods or antitramp bars, tires, etc.--for a given
> road condition (from smooth track to rough street) will have a lot of
> bearing on shock spec and evaluation.  A setup that turns in great
> track times probably won't give you either good seat-of-the-pants
> road feel or quickness on the street.  Different courses for
> different horses...
>
> IMHO, levers are probably perfectly good for street driving with a
> stock suspension, but as you re-engineer the suspension, things will
> change.
>
> When I was looking into suspension setup, I found an article about
> the rally cars Ron Gammons (Brown and Gammons,
> http://www.ukmgparts.com/) set up.  His CB MGBs have won numerous
> European vintage rally events (driven by his customers, pros like
> Stirling Moss, and himself.)   His cars have been set up to meet the
> requirements of vintage rallying sanctioning bodies (minimal/period
> modification) and to be dead reliable.  From what I've read, he uses
> competition-valved levers, an only slightly lowered CB suspension,
> and only slightly stiffer springs and front anti-roll bars.  Keeping
> the wheels on the ground over uneven road surfaces and neutral
> steering response, are key requirements.
>
> I would tend to think that for the street, seat of the pants is a
> good enough indicator of whether a modification is worthwhile.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Chris Attias
> '64 MGB
> '84 Alfa Romeo GTV-6



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