Hi Guys,
Several gaskets are supplied with the filter because the filter fits many
different applications. We need a gasket for the MGs that will sit snuggly
in the oil pump groove. So you need to be more precise in your gasket
description. "Narrow" and "thick" is not good enough. The Fram 814 filter
comes with three gaskets, only one is correct. The groove in the oil pump
measures 0.090" in width, using Fram gaskets, they are 0.068" wide, 0.088"
wide or 0.118" wide, the 0.088" wide gasket is the correct one. Yes the old
gasket can be hard as a rock and difficult to remove but that is what is
needed every few years. I agree, you don't need to replace the gasket each
filter change. Using a gasket that is not seated in the groove, or two
gaskets, or the too narrow 0/068", or the too thick 0.0118" will almost
always give a major oil leak at the worst moment. Do it right the first time
and seat the proper 0/088" gasket in the groove and it will seal for years.
Or buy an adapter to accept a modern spin-on filter. I make this spin-on
adapter for the late TD/TF oil pumps. Cost is $35.00 US$ plus $5.00 US$
mailing cost, for a total of $40.00 US$. Now the oil pump gasket is not
disturbed when you change the filter. Filters are also cheap and readily
available.
The "filter bolt to pump" adapter can be difficult to remove. I use a piece
of good 3/8" steel rod that passes through the hole in the adapter and
monkey or pipe wrench that bears on both ends of the 3/8" rod and it just
unscrews. The new filter adapter then simply screws into the oil pump using
a 1" hex socket.
I also make an aluminum spin-on oil filter adapter for the TC/early TD. This
replaces the separate oil filter cannister and uses original brackets, oiil
lines, banjo bolts and is cross drilled to give correct oil flow through the
spin-on. Cost is $70.00 US$ plus $5.00 US$ mail for a total of $80.00 US$.
If interested in either adapter or have questions email me. If you want to
buy an adapter send a cheque ( that Canadian for check ) to:
Bob Grunau
150 Pinewood Trail,
Mississauga, Ontario,
Canada, L5G-2L1
I will be at the Wolfeville Nova Scotia GOF ( God and my TC willing ) and
can deliver several adapters and you save the 5 bucks postage, as long as I
know in advance. .
Refgrds, Bob Grunau
Scott:
If your talking about the "integral canister" filter that's part of the oil
pump, here is what I wrote some time ago in an old post:
" The narrow gasket is the correct one. For many years I used the thick
gasket on top of the narrow one (I didn't even know the narrow one was
there.). Then one day I had a major oil spill on the garage floor, like the
Exon Valdez. The list clued me in on the narrow gasket and the almost hidden
groove it goes in. The old narrow gasket was as hard as a rock and bonded to
the groove so rigidly, I had to chisel it out! Now I always put a new
"narrow" gasket in when changing the filter. Now getting that gasket into
the groove is a royal pain and it's hard to see if it's properly seated. I
also try to guide the canister on straight and hold it so it doesn't turn
against the gasket. I turn the bolt not the canister. "
This groove really is well hidden, and only the thin seal will fit in it. I
bought the spin-on filter adapters, but I can't get the old "filter bolt to
pump adapter (as Moss calls it)" loose. Next time the engine is out, that
part is going to meet Mr. acetylene wrench!
Anyone still using the "integral canister" filter should double check for
leaks after changing the filter element. Rev the engine briefly first, to
get the pressure up. If the seal is not seated properly, you will loose oil
fast! DO NOT HIT THE ROAD WITHOUT FIRST CHECKING FOR A LEAK!
Hey guys, am I right on this?
Bob Donahue (Still stuck in the '50s)
> Hi,
>
> Changing the oil on the '52 today, and thought I'd ask a question that's
> always bother'd me.
>
> Why do two seals come with the filter?
>
> All the filters I've purchased have a thin seal and a fat seal. I've
always
> used the fat one and have thrown the thin one away.
>
> Am I missing something here?
>
> Oh yeah, this is the Tecalment, (sp?) filter with replaceable element I'm
> talking about here.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Scott Allen
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