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Re: What's Up?

To: "DrMayf" <drmayf@teknett.com>
Subject: Re: What's Up?
From: john robinson <john@engr.wisc.edu>
Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 08:51:02 -0600
Howdy,
          One of the questions I have is about the Red Head , if you know 
the car, it was swoopy, kinda exaggerated coke bottle Corvette shape. I was 
wondering about the drag behind the wheel humps, if it would go up due to 
turbulence and flow separation behind the hump?

At 04:10 PM 11/5/01, you wrote:
>John, I assume you wanted a real answer to you question and not just chit
>chat. First keep the car on the ground, allow very little space for air to
>get under the car. Air under the car has to be sheared because the air is
>attached to the car and the ground. This eats up quite a bit of power. Next,
>smooth swoopy corners are better than rectangular ones. Rectanglear set up
>bad air flow problems causing drag from interference of the various flows.
>Next minimize the frontal area. Do everything you can to reduce it because
>it is a direct multiplier for power required ( double the area, double the
>power at any given speed). If you can reduce the frontal area by making the
>body lower between the wqheels, it is a good thing to do, as along as the
>panel intersections are not angular corners.  Given all that, I wouldn't be
>doing a front driver. Asking the tire contact patch to do to many things:
>forward traction, steering, etc. Anyhoo, good luck...send me a jpg when it
>looks good...
>
>mayf
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "john robinson" <john@engr.wisc.edu>
>To: "DrMayf" <drmayf@teknett.com>
>Cc: <land-speed@autox.team.net>
>Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 9:14 AM
>Subject: Re: What's Up?
>
>
> > I'm here, been putting pixel to screen, drawing my streamliner....   front
> > wheel drive front wheel steer staggered rear wheels....right now about 7
> > ft2  frontal area.... trying to get it lower....which do you think is
> > better, slightly rounded body panels but still a rectangle? or swoopy
> > "trout" looking? is lowering the body between the wheels and making wheel
> > fairings better from a C/D standpoint (ala "Red Head" ) or shaped like the
> > Feuling with a rectangled squarish shape?
> >
> >               John Robinson, Mechanician
> >    Mechanical Engineering University of Wisconsin
> >                  1513 University Ave.
> >                   Madison, Wi. 53706
> >                      608-262-3606
> >                    FAX 608-265-2316
> > Current World Land Speed Record Holder
> > Bonneville Salt Flats
> >             H/GCC 92 cu.in. 1980 Dodge Colt
> >    131.333 MPH set 1995
> >    136.666 MPH set 1996
> >    140.292 MPH set 2000
> >    144.396 MPH set 2000
> >      MPS-PG 441 c.c. 1967 BSA Victor Motorcycle
> >     95.193 MPH set 2001
> >
> >


              John Robinson, Mechanician
   Mechanical Engineering University of Wisconsin
                 1513 University Ave.
                  Madison, Wi. 53706
                     608-262-3606
                   FAX 608-265-2316
        Current World Land Speed Record Holder
                 Bonneville Salt Flats
            H/GCC 92 cu.in. 1980 Dodge Colt
                   131.333 MPH set 1995
                   136.666 MPH set 1996
                   140.292 MPH set 2000
                   144.396 MPH set 2000
     MPS-PG 441 c.c. 1967 BSA Victor Motorcycle
                    95.193 MPH set 2001

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