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Re: Welding 101

To: "Nafzger" <nafzger@vtc.net>, "Jim Dincau" <jdincau@qnet.com>,
Subject: Re: Welding 101
From: "John Beckett" <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 21:08:50 -0500
They may now, but didn't a couple of years ago.

JB
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nafzger" <nafzger@vtc.net>
To: "John Beckett" <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>; "Jim Dincau"
<jdincau@qnet.com>; <FastmetalBDF@aol.com>; <land-speed@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 8:36 PM
Subject: Re: Welding 101


> John,
>  You are correct on the MIG being dominant in building NASCAR chassis but
I
> believe Penske South Racing ( R.Wallace & Mayfield) TIG all their chassis.
> Howard
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Beckett" <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>
> To: "Jim Dincau" <jdincau@qnet.com>; <FastmetalBDF@aol.com>;
> <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 4:03 PM
> Subject: Re: Welding 101
>
>
> > Every NASCAR shop I've been in (and I've been in a few) has several
large
> > MIG welders. Beauifuld welds...I'm sure from lots of practice replacing
> bent
> > parts. They use top quality DOM mild steel. There may be a TIG torch
> around,
> > but I've not seen it used on a chassis.
> >
> > John Beckett
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jim Dincau" <jdincau@qnet.com>
> > To: <FastmetalBDF@aol.com>; <lsr_man@yahoo.com>; <Nt788@aol.com>;
> > <LGMCAFEE@aol.com>; <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 3:34 PM
> > Subject: Re: Welding 101
> >
> >
> > > Bruce, you might ask around and see what they use to weld together
those
> > > NASCAR chassis with.
> > > Jim in Palmdale where it actually SNOWED last night, well technically
it
> > was
> > > snow but it was only 1/4 inch thick
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <FastmetalBDF@aol.com>
> > > To: <lsr_man@yahoo.com>; <Nt788@aol.com>; <LGMCAFEE@aol.com>;
> > > <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 11:10 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Welding 101
> > >
> > >
> > > >    Dick,  If you intend to work on lsr cars / street rods /
homebuilt
> > > > motorcycles
> > > > and the like for a number of years yet, the best way to go is to get
> > > yourself
> > > > a TIG welding ( also referred to as HELIARC ) outfit .... this is
how
> > the
> > > PROS
> > > > do it, and to me it is the ULTIMATE way to fasten metal together :
> > > aluminum
> > > > (or as it is known in the UK : ALUMINIUM ),stainless steel, regular
> > carbon
> > > > steel, titanium, magnesium, copper, and cast iron . You said that
you
> > can
> > > > gas weld ..... TIG is much the same, torch in one hand, filler rod
in
> > the
> > > > other,
> > > > only the heat for the arc is supplied by electricity, and the inert
> gas
> > is
> > > > for the
> > > > purpose of shielding the weld zone only, whether argon, helium, or
> > carbon
> > > > dioxide ...... or mixes like 75 % helium / 25 % argon, etc. ......
it
> > all
> > > > depends on WHAT you are welding on .
> > > >        My take is ..... IF you can afford to do some serious racing,
> and
> > > IF
> > > > you will be building the car(s) yourself, and IF you can visualize
> > > yourself
> > > > being ABLE to do this for at least a few more years ..... then you
> > should
> > > > do yourself a BIG FAVOR and get TIG welding for your shop .
> > > >        IF you were a racer who is mainly an engine builder type, and
> > does
> > > > just a little welding on the car, or NONE, and farms all of that out
> to
> > > > friends
> > > > or pro shops, then this advice might not apply to you .....
everybody
> > has
> > > > to figure out what they really need versus the cost, and how often
> will
> > > they
> > > > need to use that equipment, and will the equipment they already have
> > > > get the job done ..... to their satisfaction .
> > > >       Much of the great technology in hot rodding and race car
> building
> > > > came to us from the aircraft industry, which is one of industry' s
> main
> > > > cutting edges in metalworking, and I believe the TIG process was
> > developed
> > > > by North American Aircraft in the early 40s ...... but I might be
> > > incorrect
> > > > on that .  Check out the welding you see on any modern airplanes
.....
> > > > I do every time I' m getting on an airliner .... some nice looking
> welds
> > > > there, and rivet work, too !
> > > >         Several thoughts there ......
> > > >            YA  PAYS  YER  MONEY  &  MAKES  YER  CHERCE
> > > >                Bruce
> > > > BTW :   When I started gas welding (1954) the word " torch " meant
the
> > > > CUTTING torch ..... when we actually welded metal together with the
> > > > smaller tips screwed onto the same handle, this was technically
> referred
> > > to
> > > > as an oxy - acetylene blowpipe .....at least according to the
> > manufacturer
> > > .
> > > > In those days every garage and body shop had oxy - acetylene welding
> > > >             ..... but they did NOT all have arc welding .....

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