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Re: Welding 101

To: "George Mitchell" <americanpartnerinrussia@starpower.net>,
Subject: Re: Welding 101
From: "Nafzger" <nafzger@vtc.net>
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 18:44:36 -0700
List,
 I got a gonga deal on my Miller Synchrowave 250 by finding a lease return
at a Miller dealer. It was checked out and guaranteed and the price was
about 60% of new. If you are looking for something like this, it might be
worth a try.
Howard

----- Original Message -----
From: "George Mitchell" <americanpartnerinrussia@starpower.net>
To: "Jim Dincau" <jdincau@qnet.com>; <FastmetalBDF@aol.com>;
<lsr_man@yahoo.com>; <Nt788@aol.com>; <LGMCAFEE@aol.com>;
<land-speed@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 1:58 PM
Subject: RE: Welding 101


> I have some nascar friends and they all seem to use a mig procss to weld
but
> they are welding mild steel. I dont think those guys are using any
> chome-moly.
>  I have a torch in my shop and two other welders - a Miller syncrowave 250
> which is for tig but can do stick too-- although I never use it for that .
> It has square wave technology and welds aluminum and cm really well on ac
> and dc respectivley. My other welder is an older welder from Linde that is
a
> needle arc welder . Different looking weld pool, great penetration,
internal
> radiator for the torch and  goes all the way down to 5 amps dc
> consistently.750 pounds though. Bought from a NASA auction-- cool stuff
but
> I am always using my miller and poking hole in my mask with the hot filler
> rod. It has really taken a beating over the years.
> By the way I always heat treat my chrome moly stuff after. Some do , some
> dont . I do.
>
> George in DC on my way to Seattle on business in the morning
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-land-speed@autox.team.net
> [mailto:owner-land-speed@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Jim Dincau
> Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 6:35 PM
> To: FastmetalBDF@aol.com; lsr_man@yahoo.com; Nt788@aol.com;
> LGMCAFEE@aol.com; land-speed@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: Welding 101
>
>
> Bruce, you might ask around and see what they use to weld together those
> NASCAR chassis with.
> Jim in Palmdale where it actually SNOWED last night, well technically it
was
> snow but it was only 1/4 inch thick
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <FastmetalBDF@aol.com>
> To: <lsr_man@yahoo.com>; <Nt788@aol.com>; <LGMCAFEE@aol.com>;
> <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 11:10 AM
> Subject: Re: Welding 101
>
>
> >    Dick,  If you intend to work on lsr cars / street rods / homebuilt
> > motorcycles
> > and the like for a number of years yet, the best way to go is to get
> yourself
> > a TIG welding ( also referred to as HELIARC ) outfit .... this is how
the
> PROS
> > do it, and to me it is the ULTIMATE way to fasten metal together :
> aluminum
> > (or as it is known in the UK : ALUMINIUM ),stainless steel, regular
carbon
> > steel, titanium, magnesium, copper, and cast iron . You said that you
can
> > gas weld ..... TIG is much the same, torch in one hand, filler rod in
the
> > other,
> > only the heat for the arc is supplied by electricity, and the inert gas
is
> > for the
> > purpose of shielding the weld zone only, whether argon, helium, or
carbon
> > dioxide ...... or mixes like 75 % helium / 25 % argon, etc. ...... it
all
> > depends on WHAT you are welding on .
> >        My take is ..... IF you can afford to do some serious racing, and
> IF
> > you will be building the car(s) yourself, and IF you can visualize
> yourself
> > being ABLE to do this for at least a few more years ..... then you
should
> > do yourself a BIG FAVOR and get TIG welding for your shop .
> >        IF you were a racer who is mainly an engine builder type, and
does
> > just a little welding on the car, or NONE, and farms all of that out to
> > friends
> > or pro shops, then this advice might not apply to you ..... everybody
has
> > to figure out what they really need versus the cost, and how often will
> they
> > need to use that equipment, and will the equipment they already have
> > get the job done ..... to their satisfaction .
> >       Much of the great technology in hot rodding and race car building
> > came to us from the aircraft industry, which is one of industry' s main
> > cutting edges in metalworking, and I believe the TIG process was
developed
> > by North American Aircraft in the early 40s ...... but I might be
> incorrect
> > on that .  Check out the welding you see on any modern airplanes .....
> > I do every time I' m getting on an airliner .... some nice looking welds
> > there, and rivet work, too !
> >         Several thoughts there ......
> >            YA  PAYS  YER  MONEY  &  MAKES  YER  CHERCE
> >                Bruce
> > BTW :   When I started gas welding (1954) the word " torch " meant the
> > CUTTING torch ..... when we actually welded metal together with the
> > smaller tips screwed onto the same handle, this was technically referred
> to
> > as an oxy - acetylene blowpipe .....at least according to the
manufacturer
> .
> > In those days every garage and body shop had oxy - acetylene welding
> >             ..... but they did NOT all have arc welding .....

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