Current 500 cc GP motorcycles produce almost 200 HP (!). I don't know if
any direct comparisons can be made, but clearly a rotary shouldn't be
penalized MORE than 2 strokes.
Shouldn't we be in line with the FIA on this? I thought Bonneville records
were FIA endorsed.
Dale
-----Original Message-----
From: John Beckett [mailto:landspeedracer@email.msn.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 8:06 AM
To: Dave Dahlgren; land-speed@autox.team.net; Lee Kennedy; Dan Warner;
Mike Cook; Mike Manghelli
Subject: Re: Rules/wankel engine size factor.........
I believe that I have weighed in on this subject already. But I think
Dave would like a final show of hands. So here goes again.
Basically I have thought the x3 factor for rotary engines is excessive.
I have felt that way since I began reading the Bonneville rules many years
ago. I probably will never run a rotary engine in any of my cars, but that
isn't the point. The basic rule is unfair, for all the reasons that Dave has
outlined in many many earlier e-mails, and should be up-dated to a fair and
equitable factor of x2.1 as the SCCA and the FIA have established.
In any sport fairness is paramount, weather it's beneficial for one or
for a thousand members. Were not trying to establish a new class here, or
take anything away from someone, Just trying to keep the playing field
level.
John Beckett
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Dahlgren" <ddahlgren@snet.net>
To: <land-speed@autox.team.net>; "Lee Kennedy" <leekenn@pacbell.net>; "Dan
Warner" <dwarner@electrorent.com>; "Mike Cook" <beauty1@hughes.net>; "Mike
Manghelli" <mmanghel@hughes.net>
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 8:06 AM
Subject: Re: Rules/wankel engine size factor.........
> To all that might be interested...
> It's been over 24 hrs... Not a word although 178 previous
> e-mails on the subject not counting the ones i wrote.... Not
> even a public show of hands from people here that are in
> support, against and or think this needs to be addressed..
> message received.. I have my own theories as to why it is so
> quiet on this subject, but in general for peace and harmony
> and good will to all i think the wise thing to do is just
> keep them to myself. everybody have a good day, stand tall
> if you can and if you can't, avoid mirrors as they never
> lie.
> Dave Dahlgren (where it is 8:00 am EST)
>
>
> Dave Dahlgren wrote:
> >
> > It has been said that there is a rules meeting in Jan. What
> > do I have to do to bring up a rules change for the
> > Wankel(aka rotary) engine size factor for serious
> > discussion? It has been e-mailed to death all over this
> > group and to many individuals with all sorts of information
> > to support it. can this be done via e-mail? if so to whom? i
> > honestly think that waiting another year is a complete
> > dis-service to the members of the LSR community that are
> > interested or might consider building a car that uses on of
> > these cheap and readily available power plants.
> >
> > So how is it done?
> > Can it be done?
> > Can it be done by phone or fax or e-mail?
> > Is there any interest in changing this rule?
> > Is there any information lacking that has not been passed
> > around on the net?
> > Does anyone that makes the rules have any questions at all
> > or is there any info that I have left out in all the
> > e-mails?
> > Out of the people that have been included in this e-mail is
> > anyone that helps make these decisions been left out?
> > If so how are they contacted?
> >
> > I am hoping for a free exchange of ideas on this subject
> > with some honest thought involved that is based on facts not
> > history and personal feelings. I personally find it very
> > hard to believe that FIA and SCCA is all screwed up in their
> > use of engine factors of 2.1......... They have very good
> > engineers that work on these subjects on a regular basis and
> > represent both national and inter-national competition.
> >
> > If the answers to the above questions are no there is no
> > interest and there is no desire to change anything or even
> > consider any change for the benefit of the LSR community or
> > to align SCTA with the rest of the world, please do me a
> > small favor, actually two small favors.
> > First is let that feeling be known publicly on the net at
> > this e-mail group accompanied with the reasons why it can
> > not or will not be changed along with the facts that made
> > this decision the correct one.
> >
> > The other favor is small but personal, please leave off any
> > personal attacks. I am not up to another tirade of being
> > called a "Hot Shot wanna-be engineer" or sending out a bunch
> > of crap! I do at times find great humor in it though when i
> > watch Speedvision and ESPN and cars that I have supplied
> > parts, done design work or personally tuned are very busy
> > winning.....
> >
> > Dave Dahlgren
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