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Re: Frozen Brake Drum Question

To: Dick J <lsr_man@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Frozen Brake Drum Question
From: Joe Timney <joetimney@dol.net>
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 08:37:17 +0000
Hell, Dick...just weld it back up. You don't need no stinkin' brakes!

joe ( the blind tech guy)

Dick J wrote:

> Yup, there are two adjusters.  I'm going to check
> around with the local Mopar dealers, some of em
> around here have been in business since they sold
> wagons.  I ought to be able to find one of those
> pullers.  Otherwise, it's going to be:  heat the
> drum until its fading from red, and beat the
> gollywhumper out of it with a Keith-sized hammer.
> (I've just always tried to avoid using that
> technique - - mainly because of the "ski" on the
> end of my name!)
>
> I just pulled a drum off of an old Chev rear end
> and had to resort to burning two holes in it so I
> could pry the shoes loose.  Needless to say, that
> rendered the left-over pieces of the drum a
> little useless - 'course, 67 Chev drums are more
> readily available than 54 Dodge drums.
>
> Keith, will Joe pass my car through safety tech
> if I grind the cracks in the brake drum real
> smooth after gluing them back together with Super
> Glue?  Maybe a coat of Rustoleum flat black?
> What brand super glue do you use for that?
>
> --- DOUG ODOM <popms@thegrid.net> wrote:
> > Dick; I remember at the dealership we had a
> > puller that bolted to the
> > axle and you had to hit it hard with a BIG
> > hammer to get the drums off.
> > I think that those are duel plane brakes. You
> > have two adjusters on the
> > backing plate you have to back off. One for
> > each shoe. If you have an
> > old mopar dealership in your town they might
> > still have that puller in
> > the back room. It's a big heavy thing.
> >                       Doug Odom in big ditch
> > Dick J wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm taking in all this advice and will try a
> > > combination.  There are no holes to pry from.
> > > The axles are tapered, presumeably with a
> > keyway.
> > > The axle flanges appear to be welded to the
> > > drums.  I put a big puller on the lugs and
> > tried
> > > around 400 ftlbs of torque (using one of
> > those 4
> > > foot wrenches made for Porsche flywheels),
> > then
> > > hammered too. I was afraid I'd break the
> > puller.
> > >
> > > Dick J
> > >
> > > --- FastmetalBDF@aol.com wrote:
> > > >          Dick,  Does the drum have a large
> > hole
> > > > ( like 3 or 4 inch ) on its'
> > > > face
> > > > where the end of the axle sticks through to
> > > > take any shear loading off of the
> > > > lugs ...... as older chevs do ?   They can
> > get
> > > > stuck like they were welded on
> > > > at this juncture of the axle & drum .  That
> > is
> > > > why Chevrolet provided the two
> > > > " C " shaped holes, 180 * opposite each
> > other,
> > > > in the face of the drum .....
> > > > you hammer a pair of those hook shaped "
> > > > wedging " tools in between the
> > > > drum face and axle flange face and pry
> > outward
> > > > on both handles ......
> > > > usually does the job ..... many times the
> > drum
> > > > pops off right as you hammer
> > > > them in ..... sometimes you do need some
> > heat
> > > > to help coax them off ......
> > > >        I do not know if your old Mopar has
> > > > those holes in the drums, or the
> > > > shouldered axle ends ..... never worked on
> > 'em
> > > > ..... my toys and daily drivers
> > > > were always flathead Fords n' smallblock
> > Chevs
> > > > .    Be sure to check to
> > > > see if the drums are badly worn, and the
> > ridge
> > > > near the backside of the
> > > > drum is hanging up on the edge of the brake
> > > > shoes ...... this can be a real
> > > > headache if you don' t care to  TURKhammer
> > them
> > > > !   ( he knows ALL
> > > > those Old World Craftsman precision tricks,
> > > > doesn' t he !!! )
> > > >       Maybe you could make a custom puller
> > > > arrangement up with some
> > > > steel plate and big ( like 1" ) threaded
> > rod to
> > > > apply steady pressure ( AND
> > > > maybe some hearty raps on the drum ) ......
> > > > that has saved the day for
> > > > me a few times . Working with vintage tin
> > and
> > > > tired iron presents its' own
> > > > PROBLEMS ..... but it' s sure gratifying
> > when
> > > > you solve them !
> > > >      Don' t forget the school of thought
> > that
> > > > if enough  CHOICE  words
> > > > are directed at the offending parts .....
> > ALL
> > > > will work out !!!
> > > >      I graduated from that school long ago
> > > > ..... ( well, MOST of the time ! )
> > > > Have FUN !   Watch out for skinned knuckles
> > and
> > > > ruined parts .......
> > > >                                  YOURS  and
> > the
> > > > car' s !
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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> > >
> > >
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