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RE: Electronics vs. old way Nastalgia class

To: "Ferguson, Darrell" <dfergus@bactc.com>,
Subject: RE: Electronics vs. old way Nastalgia class
From: Dick J <lsr_man@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 12:50:31 -0800 (PST)
Nope.  That wasn't me. I'm runnin a flathead.

--- "Ferguson, Darrell" <dfergus@bactc.com>
wrote:
> Hey Dick
> 
>       Not to pick on you, but I thought you were the
> guy who proposed a
> Nostalgia Class to encompass your 53 Stude ?  I
> don't complain about the
> fact that you can duct air from under the car,
> to behind the rear window to
> make you go faster and stay safer in your ride,
> while I can't in my 68
> Firebird ! I think the SCTA has enough on its
> hands already without further
> segregating the classes into Vintage,
> Nostalgia, and Late Model. Our bad for
> choosing cars that aren't as slippery as a new
> Chrysler Concorde !
> 
> Darrell @ BLACK RADON ENGINEERING
> 
>       -----Original Message-----
>       From:   Dick J [SMTP:lsr_man@yahoo.com]
>       Sent:   Wednesday, December 08, 1999 1:36 PM
>       To:     John Beckett; land-speed@autox.team.net
>       Subject:        Re: Electronics vs. old way Nastalgia
> class
> 
>       Gee, John, it ain't me. All I want is a place
> to
>       race.  I studied the rules, picked where I
> wanted
>       to be, then I built (or am building)
> accordingly.
>        I'm just happy to be on the track at all.
> I've
>       got two flatheads, a hemi, a small block
> Chevy, a
>       Harley, a teeny weeny rice burner, and a Dodge
>       truck and I'm satisfied that there's already a
>       class to run every one of these.
> 
>       --- John Beckett
> <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>
>       wrote:
>       >     I think some people are still missing
> the
>       > point. With a quick count
>       > there are over 620 classes now on the
>       > books...which includes all the
>       > existing Vintage classes. And currently
>       > Flathead Fords don't have to run 289
>       > OHV Fords, Arduns don't have to run against
>       > Hemi's and Buick straight
>       > eight's don't run against Chevy V-8's now.
> So
>       > what are we talking about? We
>       > don't need to reinvent the wheel here guys.
> No
>       > body is being excluded from
>       > LSR.
>       > 
>       >     John Beckett
>       > 
>       > -----Original Message-----
>       > From: Dick J <lsr_man@yahoo.com>
>       > To: dferguso@ebmail.gdeb.com
>       > <dferguso@ebmail.gdeb.com>;
>       > land-speed@autox.team.net
>       > <land-speed@autox.team.net>;
> bbutters@dmi.net
>       > <bbutters@dmi.net>
>       > Date: Wednesday, December 08, 1999 10:48 AM
>       > Subject: RE: Electronics vs. old way
> Nastalgia
>       > class
>       > 
>       > 
>       > >Doug, I think you're missing a subtle point
>       > here.
>       > > Those were the days when the greatest
>       > >breakthrough in automotive history was one
> HP
>       > per
>       > >cubic inch.  What are production cars doing
>       > now 3
>       > >1/2 or 4 or even more in decent rice
> burners
>       > with
>       > >variable cam timing etc? Some of us just
> want
>       > to
>       > >have a place for some of the vintage stuff
> to
>       > >still have fun.  I don't think a 300 inch
>       > >flathead is going to fare too well against
> an
>       > >electronic injected, computer ignitioned
> 302
>       > >small block do you?  Those old Ardun
>       > conversions,
>       > >finned aluminum flatheads, nail head
> Buicks,
>       > >Y-block Fords with three deuces, 392 Hemis
>       > with
>       > >dual fours or Hilborns, and straight eight
>       > Buicks
>       > >ought to have a place to be showcased other
>       > than
>       > >in magazine articles and museums! Do I feel
>       > >threatened - hell no, I'm going to run my
>       > >flathead roadster anyway, but it sure
> doesn't
>       > >have much of a chance against a 289 Cobra
> or a
>       > >5.0 Mustang!  But that doesn't mean I
> wouldn't
>       > >like to have a place where I could still
> run
>       > in a
>       > >competetive race. Don't worry, the old
> timers
>       > >will never threaten the mega buck, monster
>       > cubic
>       > >inch, electronically sparked, computer
>       > controled
>       > >cars.  I'm sure you'll feel the pinch a
> little
>       > >when your forhead gets longer and your belt
>       > gets
>       > >bigger and the jet turbine cars,
> anti-gravity
>       > >crusers, and nuclear powered zillion mile
> per
>       > >hour science fiction racers of the future
>       > start
>       > >to crowd your big block and every other
>       > internal
>       > >combustion engine into antiquity. If that
> new,
>       > >leading edge, high tech stuff is what is
> most
>       > >important, then NHRA, Indycar, and F-1
> events
>       > >have a lot of it!  I for one, would still
> like
>       > to
>       > >see old Novis, Alphas, and Offys run, but
> they
>       > >can't share the track with modern stuff. 
> In
>       > LSR
>       > >we race one at a time, so anything has a
> safe
>       > >place on the track. There's room for all of
> us
>       > in
>       > >LSR and I hope it stays that way.
>       > >
>       > >
>       > >--- dferguso@ebmail.gdeb.com wrote:
>       > >> youve got to be kidding- a nostalgia
> class. 
>       > a
>       > >> car with electronic fuel
>       > >> injection cant race against a car with
>       > >> mechanical fuel injection? a car
>       > >> with exhaust thermocouples cant race
> against
>       > a
>       > >> car without them ?  a car
>       > >> with an electronic rev limiter cant race
>       > >> against a car without one?  - this
>       > >> is rediculous - are you guys that
> threatened
>       > by
>       > >> some electronics that you
>       > >> cannot throw down and race against them?
> -
>       > from
>       > >> hearing about the
>       > >> "nostalgia" days from my pop, these were
> the
>       > >> days where you raced hardcore,
>       > >> with what you had - street or drags- the
>       > days
>       > >> of the real heads up warriors
>       > >> -not worried about what the other guy had
>       > under
>       > >> his hood ( oh, please
>       > >> excuse me -i'm sorry - i cannot race you
>       > >> because youve got a new 409 chevy)
>       > >> -race to the death ! - victory !      
> -none
>       > of
>       > >> this whining crap   - if
>       > >> the "nostalgia" method is so great - go
> out
>       > and
>       > >> show em and kick their a- -
>       > >> es instead of sissifying this sport with
> a
>       > new
> 
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