OK I'm with you on the Daytona, and the new Toyota Supra, but I can't think
of too many others that come from the factory with wings. As for your
Camaro, it's not a bad little machine to cruise the salt in. It's
aerodynamically OK (better than my 68 Firebird), I get the impression you
think you're driving a brick. If you look within the altered class, it's the
most popular car to run. Maybe you could think about lowering it (it looked
pretty high in the Hot Rod photo) and maybe moving up to a bigger engine to
go faster. How bout some fuel, or nitrous, or a windmill. Lots to think
about for future upgrades !
DARRELL FERGUSON
CELLULARONE
EAST BAY FIELD OPERATIONS
(415) 298-9000
(510) 703-6970
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Keith Turk [SMTP:kturk@ala.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 1999 6:59 PM
> To: Ferguson, Darrell; 'Lawrence E. Mayfield';
> land-speed@autox.team.net; dahlgren
> Subject: Re: Horsepower and Wings
>
> How bout the Daytona.... The only car I can think of off the top of my
> head
> that has a larger frontal area then my Camaro....
>
> Go ahead and spank me again Rich for Running a Camaro... I deserve it....
>
> But hey it's CHEAP and it was already teched at Bonneville...... and for
> the bottom line.... it might even be semi Fast...
>
> Keith
>
> ----------
> > From: Ferguson, Darrell <dfergus@bactc.com>
> > To: 'Lawrence E. Mayfield' <mayfield@traveller.com>; Keith Turk
> <kturk@ala.net>; land-speed@autox.team.net; dahlgren
> <dahlgren@uconect.net>
> > Subject: RE: Horsepower and Wings
> > Date: Wednesday, June 09, 1999 4:45 PM
> >
> > AHHH!! Another exciting topic to argue ! Now we get into an
> interpretation
> > of the rules. In my mind, a wing, like one found on a lakester, would be
> > illegal for the altered class. Spoilers as we all know, are not. But now
> I'm
> > a little lost by "wings are supposed to be exactly like offered from the
> > factory". Help me out here, but I can't think of any cars that come from
> the
> > factory with a "wing".
> >
> > DARRELL FERGUSON
> > CELLULARONE
> > EAST BAY FIELD OPERATIONS
> > (415) 298-9000
> > (510) 703-6970
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Lawrence E. Mayfield [SMTP:mayfield@traveller.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 1999 10:09 AM
> > > To: Keith Turk; land-speed@autox.team.net; dahlgren
> > > Subject: Re: Horsepower and Wings
> > >
> > > Hey, you guys talking wings or spoilers? Wings are supposed to be
> exactly
> > > like offered from factory. Spoilers are a different thing...as you
> point
> > > out to me Keith..
> > >
> > > mayf
> > >
> > >
> > > At 03:18 PM 6/9/99 -0500, Keith Turk wrote:
> > > >I agree and that is why we are going to take a second deck lid with a
> > > Wing
> > > >that meets the requirements as well as allows the air to close a
> little
> > > >later behind the car...
> > > >
> > > >it has to be adjustable.... I think. to allow for the minimum
> settings...
> > > >
> > > >We learned a good bit this weekend about driving the car with some
> info
> > > we
> > > >downloaded after the passes.. I was a little to hard on the throttle
> > > during
> > > >our first meet with the Motor and Brad was a little soft....This meet
> we
> > > >were much better... though his shifts still took
> > > >
> > > >The Salt is going to require a ton of finesse... I can see that
> > > already...
> > > >but we still have to put the power down....
> > > >
> > > >Speaking of Spinning... I suppose I ought to consider a track bar to
> aid
> > > in
> > > >locating the rear end and body... as a helper... in the event of a
> > > spin...
> > > >
> > > >Keith
> > > >----------
> > > >> From: dahlgren <dahlgren@uconect.net>
> > > >> To: Keith Turk <kturk@ala.net>
> > > >> Subject: Re: Horsepower and Wings
> > > >> Date: Wednesday, June 09, 1999 1:49 PM
> > > >>
> > > >> A wing can be adjusted to give a lot or almost no down force and
> the
> > > >> drag at the low settings is very slight. it also does not add very
> much
> > > >> drag until you are going very fast. ballast hurts you every where.
> It
> > > >> takes more time and distance to get moving and adds a lot of
> rolling
> > > >> resistance. At least my way of looking at it.. At 1600 lbs and 425
> hp
> > > >> traction has been no problem with no wing so far it all depends on
> how
> > > >> YOU drive it....
> > > >> Dave Dahlgren
> > > >>
> > > >> Keith Turk wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I was talking with Darrell off line here a bit ago and a thought
> came
> > > >to my
> > > >> > mind.....
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I am dead set against running a wing on my car if I can get away
> with
> > > >it...
> > > >> > (based on stability at speed)
> > > >> >
> > > >> > anykind of aerodynamic tool which Produces downforce also
> produces
> > > >drag...
> > > >> > and to move drag takes HP...
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I heard a comment here a couple of weeks ago about us having more
> HP
> > > >then
> > > >> > the traction allows... is this the case out there for most of
> you?
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Keith Turk
> > > >> > Austin Healey 100, Bugeye, Box sprites, Bonneville Camaro ( Land
> > > Speed
> > > >> > Racer)
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > L.E. Mayfield
> > > 124 Maximillion Drive
> > > Madison, Al. 35758-8171
> > > 1-256-837-1051
> > >
> > > http://www.hsv.tis.net/~mayfield
> > >
> > > DrMayf@AOL.com
> > > mayfield@traveller.com <<<<preferred
> > >
> > >
> > > Bonneville Land Speed Racer, '66 Hydroplane Drag Boat (390 FE)
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