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Re: [Healeys] Water pump recommendations

To: Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Water pump recommendations
From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2023 11:57:07 -0800
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ps. The zerk just goes into the cavity between the two bearings, so 
doesn't really serve a purpose that I can see, but I filled it with 
grease anyway.

On 12/21/2023 9:54 AM, Michael Oritt wrote:
> Thanks Bob--
>
> It is somewhat discouraging that what should be easy--sourcing a good 
> and dependable water pump--seems like such a daunting task.  As I 
> mentioned I'd like to replace my present pump--I believe the "uprated" 
> version which I installed in situ several years back and is working 
> just fine--with a new, dependable one with the hope that it will give 
> several years of good service, and while that should not be a big ask 
> I don't think I should have the feeling that I am merely changing 
> cabins on the Titanic.
>
> All that said, most feedback seems to point to the AH Spares unit and 
> that's probably where I'll go unless someone turns my head around. You 
> mention that the threads are metric and I assume you mean the one for 
> the shutoff valve.  I don't have one of those--never had--and since it 
> is pretty expensive and I can simply shut off flow via the tap on the 
> right side of the engine I think I'll stay without one.
>
> As to the hole on top of the pump--isn't that supposed to be a 
> weephole designed to be left unplugged to serve as a warning that 
> water is getting past the seal in the engine--or am I 
> misunderstanding what you are referring to ?
>
> Best--Michael
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 11:31â?¯AM Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>     I bought the 'uprated' pump by Bastuck from BPNW (the AHSpares
>     offering appears to be an unbranded version, or maybe a copy). The
>     impeller appears to be somewhat more effective design, and the gap
>     between the impeller and the pump body is, I think, smaller than
>     OEM so would likely flow better. The threads on it won't fit the
>     OEM valve--I think everything's metric on it--and it comes with a
>     barbed nipple. As previously reported, the hole on the top of the
>     pump--anyone know what that's for?--comes with a plug that doesn't
>     plug; I tried everything to get it to seal, and ruined a pump in
>     my attempts. I finally found a way, and may use it to seal an O/D
>     drain plug if it continues to leak. It works fine, but I haven't
>     had the car out on a hot day. I don't think coolant flow is the
>     cause of overheating, esp. at idle; it's mainly due to lack of
>     airflow through the engine bay, lack of a shroud, etc.
>
>     I was so desperate I even tried a County pump, bought from Tom
>     Monaco but sourced by Moss. The bearing felt rough and and I
>     didn't install it; I returned it, and Tom had to jump through
>     hoops to get a refund but he came through. Tom knows a rebuilder
>     in Oregon who rebuilt an OEM pump for me, but it's currently
>     riding in the boot. I don't have the invoice, but Tom would tell
>     you if you gave him a call.
>
>     Bob
>
>     On 12/20/2023 10:40 PM, Hank Leach via Healeys wrote:
>>     When I did my 100, in 2015, I took the original pump to a very
>>     good machinist who fashioned a seal out of delrin and he figured
>>     out the correct spring pressure using an original NOS part and
>>     the pump works perfect to date.
>>     AH Spares professes that they have the best pump. Many other
>>     aftermarket makers, including County, make junk. Using the
>>     original parts can work if you have someone who understands
>>     pumps.The proper spring pressure is critical to prevent leaks and
>>     the seal being made out of delrin resists wear from vibration.
>>     This machinist worked for an agricultural supply company. Hank
>>     --------------------
>>
>>     From: "Michael Oritt" <michael.oritt@gmail.com>
>>     To: "Austin Healey" <healeys@autox.team.net>
>>     Sent: Wed, Dec 20 2023 06:35 PM
>>     Subject: [Healeys] Water pump recommendations
>>     The engine in my 100 will be out soon and I'd like to replace the
>>     present water pump PROVIDED there has been a scientific
>>     breakthrough in the manufacturing of this often problematic piece
>>     of equipment.
>>     Is anyone making or reconditioning pumps that offer a real
>>     improvement of what is generally offered to us?
>>     Best--Michael Oritt
>>
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    ps. The zerk just goes into the cavity between the two bearings, so
    doesn't really serve a purpose that I can see, but I filled it with
    grease anyway.<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/21/2023 9:54 AM, Michael Oritt
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:CAPTa0B7NQR1VAw8-pzi__B9LXNSt5ZsfdmDFb_WwuDZDAaV0rQ@mail.gmail.com">
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="color:#3333ff">Thanks Bob--</div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="color:#3333ff"><br>
        </div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="color:#3333ff">It is somewhat
          discouraging that what should be easy--sourcing a good and
          dependable water pump--seems like such a daunting task.  As I
          mentioned I'd like to replace my present pump--I believe the
          "uprated" version which I installed in situ several years back
          and is working just fine--with a new, dependable one with the
          hope that it will give several years of good service, and
          while that should not be a big ask I don't think I should have
          the feeling that I am merely changing cabins on the Titanic.</div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="color:#3333ff"><br>
        </div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="color:#3333ff">All that said,
          most feedback seems to point to the AH Spares unit and that's
          probably where I'll go unless someone turns my head around. 
          You mention that the threads are metric and I assume you mean
          the one for the shutoff valve.  I don't have one of
          those--never had--and since it is pretty expensive and I can
          simply shut off flow via the tap on the right side of the
          engine I think I'll stay without one.</div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="color:#3333ff"><br>
        </div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="color:#3333ff">As to the hole
          on top of the pump--isn't that supposed to be a
          weephole designed to be left unplugged to serve as a warning
          that water is getting past the seal in the engine--or am I
          misunderstanding what you are referring to ?</div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="color:#3333ff"><br>
        </div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="color:#3333ff">Best--Michael</div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="color:#3333ff"><br>
        </div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="color:#3333ff"><br>
        </div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="color:#3333ff"><br>
        </div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="color:#3333ff"><br>
        </div>
      </div>
      <br>
      <div class="gmail_quote">
        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at
          11:31â?¯AM Bob Spidell &lt;<a href="mailto:bspidell@comcast.net";
            moz-do-not-send="true" 
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">bspidell@comcast.net</a>&gt;
          wrote:<br>
        </div>
        <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid 
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
          <div> I bought the 'uprated' pump by Bastuck from BPNW (the
            AHSpares offering appears to be an unbranded version, or
            maybe a copy). The impeller appears to be somewhat more
            effective design, and the gap between the impeller and the
            pump body is, I think, smaller than OEM so would likely flow
            better. The threads on it won't fit the OEM valve--I think
            everything's metric on it--and it comes with a barbed
            nipple. As previously reported, the hole on the top of the
            pump--anyone know what that's for?--comes with a plug that
            doesn't plug; I tried everything to get it to seal, and
            ruined a pump in my attempts. I finally found a way, and may
            use it to seal an O/D drain plug if it continues to leak. It
            works fine, but I haven't had the car out on a hot day. I
            don't think coolant flow is the cause of overheating, esp.
            at idle; it's mainly due to lack of airflow through the
            engine bay, lack of a shroud, etc.<br>
            <br>
            I was so desperate I even tried a County pump, bought from
            Tom Monaco but sourced by Moss. The bearing felt rough and
            and I didn't install it; I returned it, and Tom had to jump
            through hoops to get a refund but he came through. Tom knows
            a rebuilder in Oregon who rebuilt an OEM pump for me, but
            it's currently riding in the boot. I don't have the invoice,
            but Tom would tell you if you gave him a call.<br>
            <br>
            Bob<br>
            <br>
            <div>On 12/20/2023 10:40 PM, Hank Leach via Healeys wrote:<br>
            </div>
            <blockquote type="cite">
              <div>When I did my 100, in 2015, I took the original pump
                to a very good machinist who fashioned a seal out of
                delrin and he figured out the correct spring pressure
                using an original NOS part and the pump works perfect to
                date.</div>
              <div> </div>
              <div>AH Spares professes that they have the best pump.
                Many other aftermarket makers, including County, make
                junk. Using the original parts can work if you have
                someone who understands pumps.The proper spring pressure
                is critical to prevent leaks and the seal being made out
                of delrin resists wear from vibration. This machinist
                worked for an agricultural supply company. Hank<br>
                -------------------- <br>
                <br>
                From: "Michael Oritt" <a
                  href="mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com"; target="_blank"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">&lt;michael.oritt@gmail.com&gt;</a>
                <br>
                To: "Austin Healey" <a
                  href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target="_blank"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">&lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;</a>
                <br>
                Sent: Wed, Dec 20 2023 06:35 PM <br>
                Subject: [Healeys] Water pump recommendations </div>
              <div>
                <div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(51,51,255)">The
                  engine in my 100 will be out soon and I'd like to
                  replace the present water pump PROVIDED there has been
                  a scientific breakthrough in the manufacturing of this
                  often problematic piece of equipment.</div>
                <div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(51,51,255)"> </div>
                <div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(51,51,255)">Is
                  anyone making or reconditioning pumps that offer a
                  real improvement of what is generally offered to us?</div>
                <div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(51,51,255)"> </div>
                <div class="gmail_default" 
style="color:rgb(51,51,255)">Best--Michael
                  Oritt</div>
              </div>
              <div> </div>
              <br>
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