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Re: [Healeys] Water pump recommendations

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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Water pump recommendations
From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2023 07:56:41 -0800
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I bought the 'uprated' pump by Bastuck from BPNW (the AHSpares offering 
appears to be an unbranded version, or maybe a copy). The impeller 
appears to be somewhat more effective design, and the gap between the 
impeller and the pump body is, I think, smaller than OEM so would likely 
flow better. The threads on it won't fit the OEM valve--I think 
everything's metric on it--and it comes with a barbed nipple. As 
previously reported, the hole on the top of the pump--anyone know what 
that's for?--comes with a plug that doesn't plug; I tried everything to 
get it to seal, and ruined a pump in my attempts. I finally found a way, 
and may use it to seal an O/D drain plug if it continues to leak. It 
works fine, but I haven't had the car out on a hot day. I don't think 
coolant flow is the cause of overheating, esp. at idle; it's mainly due 
to lack of airflow through the engine bay, lack of a shroud, etc.

I was so desperate I even tried a County pump, bought from Tom Monaco 
but sourced by Moss. The bearing felt rough and and I didn't install it; 
I returned it, and Tom had to jump through hoops to get a refund but he 
came through. Tom knows a rebuilder in Oregon who rebuilt an OEM pump 
for me, but it's currently riding in the boot. I don't have the invoice, 
but Tom would tell you if you gave him a call.

Bob

On 12/20/2023 10:40 PM, Hank Leach via Healeys wrote:
> When I did my 100, in 2015, I took the original pump to a very good 
> machinist who fashioned a seal out of delrin and he figured out the 
> correct spring pressure using an original NOS part and the pump works 
> perfect to date.
> AH Spares professes that they have the best pump. Many other 
> aftermarket makers, including County, make junk. Using the original 
> parts can work if you have someone who understands pumps.The proper 
> spring pressure is critical to prevent leaks and the seal being made 
> out of delrin resists wear from vibration. This machinist worked for 
> an agricultural supply company. Hank
> --------------------
>
> From: "Michael Oritt" <michael.oritt@gmail.com>
> To: "Austin Healey" <healeys@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wed, Dec 20 2023 06:35 PM
> Subject: [Healeys] Water pump recommendations
> The engine in my 100 will be out soon and I'd like to replace the 
> present water pump PROVIDED there has been a scientific breakthrough 
> in the manufacturing of this often problematic piece of equipment.
> Is anyone making or reconditioning pumps that offer a real improvement 
> of what is generally offered to us?
> Best--Michael Oritt
>
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    I bought the 'uprated' pump by Bastuck from BPNW (the AHSpares
    offering appears to be an unbranded version, or maybe a copy). The
    impeller appears to be somewhat more effective design, and the gap
    between the impeller and the pump body is, I think, smaller than OEM
    so would likely flow better. The threads on it won't fit the OEM
    valve--I think everything's metric on it--and it comes with a barbed
    nipple. As previously reported, the hole on the top of the
    pump--anyone know what that's for?--comes with a plug that doesn't
    plug; I tried everything to get it to seal, and ruined a pump in my
    attempts. I finally found a way, and may use it to seal an O/D drain
    plug if it continues to leak. It works fine, but I haven't had the
    car out on a hot day. I don't think coolant flow is the cause of
    overheating, esp. at idle; it's mainly due to lack of airflow
    through the engine bay, lack of a shroud, etc.<br>
    <br>
    I was so desperate I even tried a County pump, bought from Tom
    Monaco but sourced by Moss. The bearing felt rough and and I didn't
    install it; I returned it, and Tom had to jump through hoops to get
    a refund but he came through. Tom knows a rebuilder in Oregon who
    rebuilt an OEM pump for me, but it's currently riding in the boot. I
    don't have the invoice, but Tom would tell you if you gave him a
    call.<br>
    <br>
    Bob<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/20/2023 10:40 PM, Hank Leach via
      Healeys wrote:<br>
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      <div>When I did my 100, in 2015, I took the original pump to a
        very good machinist who fashioned a seal out of delrin and he
        figured out the correct spring pressure using an original NOS
        part and the pump works perfect to date.</div>
      <div> </div>
      <div>AH Spares professes that they have the best pump. Many other
        aftermarket makers, including County, make junk. Using the
        original parts can work if you have someone who understands
        pumps.The proper spring pressure is critical to prevent leaks
        and the seal being made out of delrin resists wear from
        vibration. This machinist worked for an agricultural supply
        company. Hank<br>
        -------------------- <br>
        <br>
        From: "Michael Oritt" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com";>&lt;michael.oritt@gmail.com&gt;</a> <br>
        To: "Austin Healey" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>&lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;</a> <br>
        Sent: Wed, Dec 20 2023 06:35 PM <br>
        Subject: [Healeys] Water pump recommendations </div>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="color: #3333ff;">The engine in
          my 100 will be out soon and I'd like to replace the
          present water pump PROVIDED there has been a scientific
          breakthrough in the manufacturing of this often problematic
          piece of equipment.</div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="color: #3333ff;"> </div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="color: #3333ff;">Is anyone
          making or reconditioning pumps that offer a real improvement
          of what is generally offered to us?</div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="color: #3333ff;"> </div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="color: #3333ff;">Best--Michael
          Oritt</div>
      </div>
      <div> </div>
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